New bali link...

Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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Found a site that sells some balis I've never seen before. Here is the link to what came up after searching for 'butterfly':

www.cutlerytogo.com

Maybe everyone but me already knew about it but I thought I'd post it anyway. I've got nothing better to do.
 
I've seen this site a while back when they had only the first knife on the list. As a caution, I would be cautious if you consider buying a knife like this.
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I don't know the history or where it originated, but most that look like this a cheap china made balis disguised under a title such as Solinger steel or something. (as a note, the real company's name is Solingen) Most of the time you can find them for cheap at Bladeauction.com. A while back a formite NateDogg did a modification on one. BTW, where are you NateDogg?

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A while back a formite NateDogg did a modification on one. BTW, where are you NateDogg?
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Yeah, I remember reading that post but I don't think he ever got around to posting the 'after' pictures. I'd like to see how it came out.
 
Solingen is another one of those names sometimes mistaken for a maker's mark. Soligen is not a maker or a company. It is a city in German that has long been famous for cutlery.

It is illegal to import a knife into the US or sell one here that is marked "Solingen" if the blade was not made in Solingen, Germany. This is part of a treaty between the US and Germany in which we mutually agree to protect long lists of each other's distinctive "trademarks" which really aren't "trademarks". For example, it is illegal to import a product into Germany or sell it in Germany which is labeled "Tennessee Whiskey" if it was not made in the state of Tennessee.

Unfortunately, some companies in Solingen have "sold out" and are abusing their street address within this famous city to make cheap blades, legally mark them "Solingen", and export them to typically China or Pakistan where they are assembled into cheap knives. Those cheapies with the Solingen name on them can be imported into and sold within the US legally as long as they are also marked "Assembled in wherever." It is, of course, illegal for anyone except the final consumer to remove that label or mark. But, once the knives are past customs, those laws aren't very well enforced.

Some time ago, I was at a gun show looking for balisongs and there was a vendor rather loudly hawking "Genuine Solingen German pocket knive... Yes, the FAMOUS German knives from Solingen... And, thanks to a volume purchase, you can own one for just $9.99. That's right, $9.99 for a genuine Solingen German pocket knife." Well, I took a look and quickly realized that these POS cheapies weren't worth $9.99. I breathed on the blade to sort of fog it a bit and you could see the words "Assy in Pakistan". Obviously, the blades had been marked with an ink that satisfied customs, but was easily wiped off (at least off the surface), perhaps with a bit of a solvent of some sort. When I pointed this out, I was asked to move along. When I brought it to the attention of the show organizer, I watched from afar as he walked up, breathed on a blade, took a look and then asked the vendor to change his sales pitch a bit.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Speak of the devil and...

Hello everyone! Long time no see.
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I haven't given up balis or anything so don't get any wierd ideas. In fact, someday (
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)I'll be recieving a wonderful custom... I'll be sure to show you all.
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Mostly I've been busy making $$$ to pay of my new car, a 2001 Acura 3.2TL (non-nav, silver w/ ebony interior
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). I've been spending alot of time on the acura-tl.com forums and alot of money on mods for the car.
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gyby_1590_2691722


That is the knife I attempted to mod... it didn't turn out very well but I learned alot about repinning. The maple wood inserts took me FOREVER to shape and sand... they looked nice, then I stained them and they looked like crap... then I sanded them and that didn't help... anyway, I posted some crappy ass pics in a thread no one read looong ago.
http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum47/HTML/000498.html
 
I bought one of those so called Herbertz Ninja knives from them. What I got was a knife that has a case marked Nieto Spain. No where are there any marking on the knife to indicate it was made in Germany, but looks every bit to be a Spanish made knife. The quality is not that much better than the China rip-off. A little bit better, but not that much. But then I am not a big fan of Spanish made knives. Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
 
>>I took a look and quickly realized that these POS cheapies weren't worth $9.99.

I think they are worth $9.95. Any German made knife sells for about $20. These knives have German blades in them, then the rest of the knife is made in Pakinstan. While a lot of people do not like Pakinstan, they do make a durable knife, that holds up fairly good. Esp. compared to the China junk out there, that only lasts about a year. Of course the China junk sells so cheap, you can afford to throw it away at the end of a year, and buy another one
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The story I heard was that Frost bought out a German factory and moved most of the machinery to Pakinstan. But they still make the blades themselves in Germany. I have a German made Herbertz Butterfly knife that looks identical to the Taiwan made Jaguar butterfly knife. Other than the markings on the blade, there would really be no way to tell them apart. Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com <img src=http://home.neo.rr.com/johnr7/Jaguar1.jpg>
 
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