New BG42 Military came today!

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jasonwilldermood

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This knife is great! It is the sharpest knife I have recieved out of the box. I was wearing shorts today and now my thigh is bald. The shape of the blade very utilitarian. It has a decent belly and a nice pointy tip. I love the finger choil. You can hold the knife in a typical fashion or choke up on the choil for more delicate work. The liner lock is rock solid and just engages right up to the edge of the blade. It should last for many years. The knife is very light for its size and the carbon fiber is nice and stiff. It is more grippy than G10 but not to much so. A bit tougher to get in and out of your pocket. It rides very nice in my pocket and is suprisingly thin. The handle is a bit large but not too bad. If you have big hands you will love it. It is fun to open but not as smooth as my Spydie Starmate. I assume the Starmate has teflon washers. I still prefer the bronze washers. There is not a bit of play in any direction. I believe this knife will dispatch enemy combatants as well as any other mall ninja knife. I made mince meat of my mail and a pile of paper napkins with it today. It push cuts through napkins like butter. For the price at NGK I would suggest it to any one, plus you get Band-Aids. "You're going to need them."
Peace out,
Jason
 
Nice, I saw some pictures of it on the spydie forums...Looks sharp! (in both ways:D )
 
It's my favorite Military ...

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Congrats!

I feel it is a worthy evolution of the Military model. Seems a bit stiffer (to bending the whole knife, no opening), maybe better locking due to that.
 
Congrats!!!! It is an awesome knife!! I want one too. I have since I heard about them!! Congrats again!
 
I'd appreciate it if someone would clarify for me what advantages, if any, the BG42 would have over the S30V blade steel. I know it has relatively more molybdenum and less vanadium and carbon, but I don't understand what that difference means in performance. Seems like the BG42 models are selling at a substantial premium over the S30V models.
 
GoodGuy said:
I'd appreciate it if someone would clarify for me what advantages, if any, the BG42 would have over the S30V blade steel.
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None. The whole thing is retarded, but that's what some people apparently wanted.
Those handle slabs do look pretty slick, though(in a good way, not a slippery one).
 
I have no idea why more companies don't use that rough cf on handles. In fact, these millitaries are the only ones I know of.
So which is likely to be considerered a better knife, the original (s30v) or the new model?
Also, does anyone know how many were made of each?
 
None. The whole thing is retarded, but that's what some people apparently wanted.
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I was given to understand that BG42 was a finer grained steel, therefore capable of being sharper, as in push cutting.
 
Siggyhk said:
I have no idea why more companies don't use that rough cf on handles. In fact, these millitaries are the only ones I know of.
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I have this one: CRKT M16-01F

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It was way before CRKT turns to the "cheap side".

Thanks, Vassili.
 
OwenM & GoodGuy, there are a few threads on this forum where some have found chipping with S30V blades at the higher Rc numbers. BG42 has never been reported as such. I've had both BG42 and SV30 blades. I prefer the BG42 and will never give up my BG42 Sebenza! If I were to replace it, Chris Reeve would only make it in S30V.

I have a custom made hunting knife made by Matt Harildstad in Canada. The BG42 blade is treated to Rc62. It is one fine blade, no chipping, and no sharpening yet!!!

I don't think S30V has been shown to be better than BG42 as it was originally touted to be, and the chipping reports are disheartening.
 
Interesting. I had sort of thought that the edge chipping in blades formed with S30V was associated with edge geometry rather than the steel properties. I'll have to re-visit those threads.
 
Wasn't it reported on a Sebenza? If so, the edge geometry would be the same as my BG42 Sebenza.

I'm not trying to "dis" SV30. I've had three knives made with the stuff and none of them chipped. ...but I "really" like BG42 and have not heard anything bad about it, except at the higher hardnesses (Rc61-63) it is a bear to sharpen.
 
I prefer my BG42 Lg Sebenza to my S30V Sm Sebenza. It may be because of the size but the BG42 seems to hold an edge longer, cut better, and gets sharper on my Sharpmaker.
Jason
 
I really have to disagree with OwenM and GoodGuy: First of, currently you can get the CF BG-42 version at newgraham for a lot less than you could ever get the CF S30V version not to mention that they are a lot less rare. Secondly, this sounds as if Spyderco put the BG-42 blade in as a gimick. They simply responded to a customer request. After some issues surfaced with S30V that didn't even pertain to Spyderco in most cases there were a lot of calls for knives with BG-42 blades...for what ever reasons....And there aren't exactly many production knives out there with that steel. And those that are out there are a lot more expensive than the Military sprint run (except the custom shoppe Buck 110). Spyderco tried to address the demand with a sprint run, they didn't take any more money for it, and they threw in some improvements for good measure (for example the mini-liner on the off-side). A great deal, me thinks. And you still have a choice: if you want S30V you can still buy the G-10 version. With the price difference you pay the handle material, not the steel as the CF S30V and the CF BG-42 were initially priced the same.

As far as the steel goes. I think I like the BG-42 better but the differences are small. But I like having choices and that is really what Spyderco offers with this run. A choice for those who want to try this steel and for those who like carbon fiber.
 
The CF cost more and the BG42 probably cost more, I imagine, because they don't buy it in the same quantity as S30V. I am sad that people aren't buying this knife. I would like to see more BG42 knives offered.
 
I have two of these, just in case I ever wear one out. This is about as good as a factory folder gets, IMHO. :thumbup:
 
HoB said:
I really have to disagree with... GoodGuy.
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Please don't get me wrong here. I don't think I've made or implied any judgments either way. I've just made an inquiry. I like my carbon fiber Military model in S30V steel. I may purchase one in BG42 if I decide it would be a worthwhile addition. I really just want to understand from an academic or practical perspective what the differences might be in steel performance.

It sounds to me that comparative edge integrity is the primary issue. I'm tempted to purchase one of the BG42 modlels and simply do a side by side evaluation comparing it to my S30V Military model.
 
I was simply disagreeing with your last sentence...that it sells at a substantial premium...which is not true. List price is exactly the same that of the S30V version IIRC and with the newgraham discount it is actually quite a bit cheaper.
 
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