New Boker USA

BladeMan said:
The Spring and the Lock (hammer) is one solid piece, that's why there is that piece of metal behind the release.

BTW, i'm Austrian not German. ;)
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Haha very good. That quote was from a website reviewing the knife. Hopefully they figure it out. Great design.
 
No problem at all. :D

Thanks, let me know how the knife works for you. Feedback is really appreciated.
 
Ooh! It looks slicey. I like slicey!

I don't think it'll replace my Delica, but I do think I'll li j e it. Definitely picking one up.
 
BladeMan said:
No problem at all. :D

Thanks, let me know how the knife works for you. Feedback is really appreciated.
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So far it kicked my M4 PM2 out of my pocket. I really love the overall feel of the knife and it came razor sharp. If you have any additional info or fun facts, post them up!
 
I always like to hear about the design philosophy behind a knife, especially from the person who designed it. Things like the one piece spring and hammer intrigue me.
 
So where did you get yours in Austria? As I said, didn't find it in any German store except böker itself.
And keep it coming. Quite interested in this.

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That Boker looks like it is dying to be " Charlie Mike'd " ! Although, I understand that Charlie Mike has retired from Charlie Mike-ing. :D
 
So far everyone I've shown the knife to loves it. They look at it skeptically, but when they get it in hand their eyes light up. I've had everyone from small hands to bear mitts hold it and all said it fits. The larger handed men said their pinky is right at the bottom of the grip, but it's still surprisingly comfortable. I myself generally do no like finger grooves on a knife, but these are well placed. They don't cause my fingers to fight for real-estate on the handle, and they actually settle the hand into a very comfortable grip that slants the hand slightly backwards while placing the thumb forward on the jimping pad. The blade is interesting too. It cants slightly inward, which makes the aggressive portion of the belly sit flush with the baseline of your grip. This makes slicing easy and allows a lot of force to be applied easily and surgically. The rest of the blade is slanted inward, which means your cuts pull into the blade instead of away from it, and cutting power is also increased. The blade is nice and thick, with a swedge that starts high on the blade. This makes the primary grind narrow towards the edge, finalizing in a thin but we'll supported cutting edge. Not as thin as a Delica, but enough for rugged use and easy slicing. The handle material is a very stiff frn. It has almost no give at all, so it doesn't need liners, further cutting down on weight. The triangle pattern on the scales work better than the Spyderco push/pull texture and feels excellent in the hand. The one piece lock is very interesting too. It works fantastic and all the parts are high polished. The smoothness can vary between models, so check them all before you buy (if possible) to find the best one. I'm sure they'll all break in just fine. I haven't taken it apart to see if it's on washers, but I assume it is. The choir is super small and only smaller hands can use it, however if you decide to use it you should definitely consider filing it down at 45deg to make it safe for use. Overall it's fantastic. Would live to see a model in CPM 154cm or s30v (NOT s35vn... So tired of that steel). Boker is gradually introducing better steels in their models, and this USA model is a total step in the right direction.

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BladeMan said:
No problem at all. :D

Thanks, let me know how the knife works for you. Feedback is really appreciated.
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The only problem I saw with this model was the lack of a ricasso and how close the tip is to the top of the scale. As you sharpen a folder, the tip begins to climb above the scales so that it's exposed when the knife is closed. Usually you just regrind the ricasso to make the tip go back below the handle. However your knife uses a stop pin that hits the choil. The tip is also already close to the scales already, so just a slight amount of sharpening will make that tip climb; it seems the only way to fix it would be to regrind the choil some how, or is there an adjustment I'm missing?

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vilePossum said:
So where did you get yours in Austria? As I said, didn't find it in any German store except böker itself.
And keep it coming. Quite interested in this.

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Bought mine in California from a brick and mortar store where k_ozdragon (Derek) happens to work.
 
k_ozdragon said:
... As you sharpen a folder, the tip begins to climb above the scales so that it's exposed when the knife is closed. Usually you just regrind the ricasso to make the tip go back below the handle. However your knife uses a stop pin that hits the choil. The tip is also already close to the scales already, so just a slight amount of sharpening will make that tip climb; it seems the only way to fix it would be to regrind the choil some how, or is there an adjustment I'm missing?
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Umm, grinding down the kick can be hazardous to the blade as the kick is there to keep the edge from impacting the inside of the knife, NOT a good way to adjust unless there is sufficient space for the blade to sit lower. I did it that way on my Buck 301 Stockman (newer version) because it has a very large kick and lots of room to sit lower, but most folders are very much NOT like that.

The way to set the tip lower is to grind the tip lower, i.e. drop the point via grinding along the spine near the tip. If you look at the pic of the Delica in the first post, you'll notice that the tip is dropped slightly from the trajectory of the rest of the spine. You lose some length and some curve to the belly, but it keeps your tip safe and sound.
 
chiral.grolim said:
Umm, grinding down the kick can be hazardous to the blade as the kick is there to keep the edge from impacting the inside of the knife, NOT a good way to adjust unless there is sufficient space for the blade to sit lower. I did it that way on my Buck 301 Stockman (newer version) because it has a very large kick and lots of room to sit lower, but most folders are very much NOT like that.

The way to set the tip lower is to grind the tip lower, i.e. drop the point via grinding along the spine near the tip. If you look at the pic of the Delica in the first post, you'll notice that the tip is dropped slightly from the trajectory of the rest of the spine. You lose some length and some curve to the belly, but it keeps your tip safe and sound.
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Right, but as the blade shrinks due to sharpening, the areas that would strike the interior also change and won't hit. Regrinding the tip will drastically change the blade profile, remove a lot of material, and also usually doesn't work in many instances. Grinding down the ricasso is usually the fix for this, however this knife is unique in that it uses an internal stop pin rather than relying on the ricasso.

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k_ozdragon said:
Right, but as the blade shrinks due to sharpening, the areas that would strike the interior also change and won't hit. Regrinding the tip will drastically change the blade profile, remove a lot of material, and also usually doesn't work in many instances. Grinding down the ricasso is usually the fix for this, however this knife is unique in that it uses an internal stop pin rather than relying on the ricasso.

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"internal stop pin", you don't mean a pin hidden inside the tang (like we see on many liner-locks these days), just a stop-pin that uses the choil/ricasso area as the kick, right? I think all of the Triad-lock knives (Cold Steel) have that type of stop-pin, but they make contact at different points depending on the model.

If you've removed sufficient material from the edge to create that much of a vacancy in the handle, then you've reached the kick and can grind it as well, can't you? The choil-recession isn't very deep and it looks like the pin makes contact very close to the 'top' of it (near the blade heel)...

Either way, grinding the tip is the way to go. You can taper the grind as much as desired, and yes it will require some coarse grinding, but the result will be clean and simple, just seems the most intuitive way to go. *shrug*
 
Does anyone who has this also have a skyline? I want to know how the handle size compares to the skyline, I have large hands and the skyline barely fits with only 3/4ths of my pinky fitting on the handle.
 
AusLoX said:
Pick one of these up today. I really like it. Similar to a delica with a different in hand feel. 154CM. Deep carry clip. Lots of blade on this one. Bokers first knife made in the US. I think Fox is manufacturing these for them.

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Not 100% sure, but I believe boker made fixed blades in the US back in ww2 and earlier.
 
Jegred2 said:
Does anyone who has this also have a skyline? I want to know how the handle size compares to the skyline, I have large hands and the skyline barely fits with only 3/4ths of my pinky fitting on the handle.
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I have a skyline. It's at my work so I'll have to take a comparison pic on Monday.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Not 100% sure, but I believe boker made fixed blades in the US back in ww2 and earlier.
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I think you're correct but it was under a different name. Out of NY. I should have said this is the first knife produced under the Boker USA branding for their Plus line. The plus line used to be China produced I believe.
 
AusLoX said:
I think you're correct but it was under a different name. Out of NY. I should have said this is the first knife produced under the Boker USA branding for their Plus line. The plus line used to be China produced I believe.
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Plus line is their premium products that aren't made at their main German plant. Most of its China, but there's also Italy and Argentina too.

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