New Buck designer/collaboration coming

Badhammer said:
So if Buck is going to make it do you all anticipate they will use/try to use 420HC or will the designer dictate the steel?
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I'd like to know this as well. I love Buck's 420hc, but I think I would prefer a spring steel (like the 5160 tops is using) for a blade this size.

Hmmm... another Buck knife to add to my list? Might as well. (Someday I'll have them all)
 
Since this is a folding knife forum......I will wait and buy the folding model.

I suppose they'll call it the 220.

The rest are girlie knives.

:D
 
The steel is going to be 5160 according to a post made by Ron Hood on his forums same knife diffrent blade finish is all probably coated.
 
I can see myself riding around on my Cub Cadet with that bad boy in my right hand going to war with the wild bushes and scrub oaks that are along the edge on my yard! I will definately have to have one! All I need is a price and an availabllity date!
 
bearcut said:
Since it is my knife in this picture, I guess I should provide some information.

The Hoodlum is made by TOPS. The steel is 5160. It is Teflon coated.
The blade length is 10”. Thickness is 3/16. Weight is 14oz, which is extremely light for a knife this size. It handles very well and doesn’t promote fatigue like many of the heavier styles do.
The handle is skeletonized and removes vibration very well. The design of the handle provides effortless snap cuts.
The angle of the blade and handle is about 13 degrees. I think this works much better than straight handle designs.

Large knives aren’t for everybody. However, once you learn to use it, you might wonder how you ever got along without one. A frame for a debris shelter, for example, can be made in far less time with a large knife than a small bushcraft blade. (Which I also carry.)

The notch was designed by Ron Hood to serve several purposes. First, as a wire breaker, which it does very well. Second, as a bone scorer. Third, as a pot lifter if you so choose.

As far as the notch being a “Weak point”, some observations are in order.

First, Ron Hood designed the knife. He wouldn’t design a flaw into a knife. He knows better.
Second, the blade is full thickness up to the notch point, thereafter it distal tapers to the point. Only an idiot would chop with that section of a knife.
Third, this is not a “sharpened prybar”. If that is what you are looking for, go elsewhere. As Ron said: “The world is full of thick, heavy knives”. This knife is not designed to be like all the rest, and it isn’t. In many ways it’s much better.
Fourth, 5160 is about the toughest knife steel available. Ron gave this knife to a bunch of Marines in the sandbox to test out for a month. He said that although he figured they COULD destroy it if they really tried, they were unable to damage it beyond minor scratches and scrapes.
Fifth, most large knives have a choil, whether large or small, on the bottom, right at the point where the handle meets the blade. Do they break there? It’s a notch isn’t it? And in a really bad place!
Seems to be a non-issue for most people.

So far, this has proven to be an excellent knife. Hopefully Buck can offer the knife in a similar fashion at a reasonable price. If anyone can, it’s Buck!
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Same design as this one. Steel will be 5160.


Jeff
 
Don't have any use for this type of blade, but it's great that Buck is using good ol' carbon steel.

Vin
 
Come on Dave, you know you'll end up with at least one if not 10 of them:D
Can't fool me! Just like when you started to "focus" your collection a few months back to 2005 made knives :) I think you're just trying to fake the rest of us out.

I like the idea of the Hoodlum and will likely get one for field use. Have to see/handle it first though. Plus, it gives me a way to lure others into the Buck fold. It will appeal to a new/different group of people which I think will be a real plus for Buck.
 
wow .. i keep a machete on the tractor for low limbs or high brush or
as snake duty or other dangerous wild life.. such as BIG SPIDERS ...
or rats the clime up on the wheels..
non poison shakes are exempted from killing as they kill rats..
have farmer who feeds cows top of hill and rats come down hill some times..
this would take place of that tool ...
sets out in weather so would get good rust test!!!
yep will buy a non folder ... but dont tell any one..
 
ohen cepel said:
Come on Dave, you know you'll end up with at least one if not 10 of them:D
Can't fool me! Just like when you started to "focus" your collection a few months back to 2005 made knives :) I think you're just trying to fake the rest of us out.
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:) Don't bet your next weeks paycheck on that! That thing leaves me even colder than the CSAR/Tops. I did buy a CSAR and I've been sorry ever since doing it. I plan on making that one a gift to someone. Those types (CSAR's, Bravos, Strider's, etc.) just don't work for me.

As far as the 2005 knives, I'm still accumulating them as I run across those I don't have. That doesn't mean exclusively! :D
 
J Hubbard said:
This knife has been lab tested and has a couple features that minimize handle shock. In concept Jerry is right, but it does not apply to this model.
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And why would it not apply to this model?

bearcut said:
Fourth, 5160 is about the toughest knife steel available.
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I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.


bearcut said:
So far, this has proven to be an excellent knife.
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Do we have pictures or videos? Proven? Where's the proof? Did you compared it in use with another knife?
 
bearcut said:
Oh man!

I can’t believe Ron Hood tweaked this design for over two years and missed this!
He must be a real wanna-be survival instructor and knife designer. He should have talked to Jerry first!

Thanks for filling me in on this.
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This sounds almost sarcastic to me ;) :D LOL (I love it) :thumbup:
Don't worry about buck_110. He pops on here all the time to start little brush fires. ;)

Liu Kang said:
I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.
Did you compare it in use with another knife?
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:rolleyes:I guess you have the right to disagree but, bearcut did not say it IS THE TOUGHEST, he stated it is about the toughest. Whats to disagree with? Also, if you actually read his thread about the knife, he states that infi, and 3V are preferred, but I would consider third in line "about the toughest" :D After actually reading his posts, I am going to guess that he used it, and compared it to a Junglas, a Fehrman, and I would bet various other knives :D

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bearcut said:
I don’t own a Junglas, but I have used one.
The handle dissipates vibration better than the Junglas, or almost any other chopper I can think of. (The exception being the Fehrman FJ, which also has a skeletonized handle.) 5160 seems to hold an edge about as well as 1095, which is good, but not as good as, say, INFI, and not even close to 3V, the latter being the best I’ve ever used in large blades.
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Borrowed from www.knifeart.com Written by Joe Talmadge
5160 A steel popular with forgers, it is extremely popular now and a very high-end steel. It is essentially a simple spring steel with chromium added for hardenability. It has good edge holding, but is known especially for its outstanding toughness (like L-6). Often used for swords (hardened in the low 50s Rc) because of its toughness, and is also used for hard use knives (hardened up near the 60s Rc).

I myself will wait to reserve judgement until I actually get my hands on one, and see the price point. I am happy to see Buck branching out! Especially with 5160! Do you have anymore pics to post up bearcut? Has she been used relentlessly yet?
 
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