New Buckmaster Survival Knife

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Ron M

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Buck might be seriously considering a new version of the 184 Buckmaster Survival Knife. If you might be interested please show some support at the Buck Forum.



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Buck had a skeleton/handled version years ago that was a very good knife.

However, methinks that the hollow handled version with the spikes sucked coyote balls.
 
Ik own an '85 buckmaster and it has a great coolness-factor. But overall not the best knife in the drawer :)
 
But with some updates in materials and design I bet it would be pretty neat! I'd love to see it!:D
 
Originally posted by averageguy
I have seen that skeleton handled model, it was a pretty neat knife.
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I USED the skeleton model. Clumsy. Useless saw back that was more a hazard than a tool. Even less useful than the original model, which was pretty bad. And the "grappling hooks," sure, I'd throw my knife over a wall as a grappling hook. Sure.

There are many sharpened pry bars out there that are far suprior to this relic.
 
I remember those. Never got one. But I could see some advantages. Like if you were in a knife fight and you bent your wrist, the spikes would stick in your wrist so you wouldn't drop the knife.

Awkward lookin thing to me.

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I'm going to do you a big favor and NOT tell Buck what I think about that design :D You know how bad it is when Chris Keller and I agree: the hollow handled version with the spikes sucked coyote balls.
 
It's not mean, it's a public service. The knife is a mess. What major improvements does Buck have in mind? Lessee... hmmm... lose the 'Batman' grappling hook, and give it a decent tang so the blade won't leave the handle at an inopportune moment... let's start there...
 
i think keeping it out of production is about the only useful improvement that knife really needs.

or maybe grinding off the edge and packaging it with a halloween costume.

but that's just me.
 
Whoof! Well, I've never seen one with those mean grappling-hook/anchor things, before :rolleyes:

I must say, that is close to the last knife I'd want for a survival knife... it's not practical, at all. I like Buck as a company and I respect what they do but, man, what were they doing with that one? :confused:

No offense intended, just an up-front opinion. :)
 
I have a Buckmaster and a Buck M9 bayonet. They are two of my favorite knives. Alot of people laugh at the screw in hooks but since they unscrew I just leave them in the box. I don't think the Buckmaster is the perfect knife but it has one quality I appreciate in a knife it's fun. It's not the first knife I would grab if I were heading of to war or a desert island but it's a neat addition to my collection and I enjoy having it. I think thats a big part of knife collecting. I have alot of knives that are'nt perfect but they are interesting and different than the next knife so it adds variety.
 
...and give it a decent tang so the blade won't leave the handle at an inopportune moment... let's start there...

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The tang handle junction was solid on these knives. The heat treat was off during the first few weeks of production, and that resulted in some blade failures but that was corrected long before the "Pat.Pend" versions went into production in 1985. Cold Steel was unable to break the blade handle joint with a vise and a 5 foot pipe. They broke the blade into 6 pieces, but, the tang remained firmly attached to the handle. The one piece BS is a myth; you can do a very solid knife with a short tang as long as the engineering is done right, and it was certainly done right on these knives.

The biggest draw back on the original design were the anchors (too specialized), the large sawteeth (more a hinderance then useful), the sheath (tended to flop around - the suspension was later much improved for the M9-bayonet), and the weight (it felt like a boat anchor - although some of that was probably the sheath, it is a very heavy knife).

n2s
 
I was underwhelmed beyond my capacity to tell you about it. I agree that the best thing to do with it is to keep it out of production.
 
Ill-conceived and egregiously consummated then, would rather see Buck use their development dollars on something new now. Buck isn't quite up to the leaders in this industry yet, but they've improved a ton, and I'd rather they continue that trend.
 
Soooo many opinions. IMHO, the knife represents a high quality version of a classic 80's style of blade and design that does have its place in the annals of edged implements. I for one would love to see a new version. By the way, not2sharp brings up a good point regarding the hollow handle juncture...as long as the attachment design is sound and manufactured under proper quality control measures, there is no reason why the hollow handle design should be dismissed and relegated to just Chris Reeve knives.
 
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