New Case Stockman with blade rub

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fx17

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I just got in a new Case Medium Stockman, with Amber Bone and CV Blades (6318). Both the clip and the spay blades are rubbing on the Sheep's foot blade. Is this typical or common, or should I consider sending to Case?

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My dad just bought the exact same knife and it had horrible blade rub on those same blades. Actually it was so bad that when you went to open the spey blade it would actually get caught in the nail nick of the sheeps foot blade and you couldn't even get it open. Then the main clip blade would rub bad enough that it would actually get hung up on the sheeps foot blade while trying to close it and you would have to push it closed to get it past the sheeps foot. He mailed it off to Case almost 3 weeks ago and hasn't heard anything back from them yet. I'm assuming that one of these days there will be a new one or at least a fixed one on his door step. This was my dads first experience with Case so needless to say he was pretty bummed and not so sure he wants to risk buying any others. I have him convinced they will make things right for now but if it comes back not fixed especially after waiting for weeks I think he will be soured on the brand and not buy any others and stick to what he knows he loves which are the old U.S. made Schrades. :)
 
Mine did that from new as well - not that uncommon afaik.
Mines a user, so doesn't really matter to me.

Annoying at the price point though, as none of my RR's, Colts or CRKT classics have it....
 
All of my Case Stockman patterns (and some others) have some amount of blade rub. Also my GEC Maverick and GEC Congress. It is a common if not universal symptom with knives that are hinged at opposite ends and used crinked blades with blades sharing springs. It is exacerbated by using the nail nick to open, which causes you to push horizontally before pulling upwards.
 
My big Case stockman has a little rub on all three blades as well. It doesn't bother me, but it is there. A medium stockman I got a few years ago has even worse blade rub.
 
I agree it is a universal minor problem with the design itself; there are tradeoffs if one wants the utility of a Stockman in the slender package that they typically are.
 
Thanks guys, thats kinda what I thought. It's a user, so I'll probably just let is slide. Never had the problem with my Buck 303 (which has 3 springs), or my Large Uncle Henry Stockman, which has thick blades and is a tank.
 
What the fellows above said - it seems that the stockman patten tends to blade rubbing in general - especially the the sheepfoot blade is pretty exponated like in the version you got there.

I got the very same knife, but just in chestnut bone and carried it for about nine months as my only knife.

So nothing I would worry about - just use as it is made and for what it is made :)
 
I guess it just depends on your definition of "rub" and how bad it is. I have quite a few stockmans and some rub a little more than others but most of them don't rub at all. The one my dad received would probably be better described as blade grind it was rubbing so bad and even if you pulled straight up on the spey blade it would still get stuck in the nail nick of the sheeps foot which is not acceptable even as a user. I'm really curious to see if it is something they will actually repair or just replace the knife. It had really nice looking bone scales on it so it would be nice if they could just fix it.
 
You have to judge. I sent one back to get fixed. They polished it, tweaked it, and included a letter stating that the design does often come with blade rub. They don't all have it, but it's not uncommon.
 
yep I didn't buy another case knife for 4 years after getting a large stockman that had bad blade rub,basically abrasive walk and talk,they are a hit and miss company in my experience.my guess is they try and sell everything no matter what the quality and just chance it!its a pain because when they make a good knife they really do!
 
squazy said:
yep I didn't buy another case knife for 4 years after getting a large stockman that had bad blade rub,basically abrasive walk and talk,they are a hit and miss company in my experience.my guess is they try and sell everything no matter what the quality and just chance it!its a pain because when they make a good knife they really do!
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I don't think so...blade rub on the Stockman pattern is the norm in all brands that offer this pattern. As for their quality, a wise old timer with a Case collection dating back to the 40's said that if Case doubled or tripled their MSRP, their perceived quality would increase commensurate with the inflated price.
 
My medium Case stockman has rub too. In my opinion, as long as opening and closing isn't impaired, or the edge damaged, it's a non-issue. I like it when they don't rub, but MANY do. Also, some patterns have used thicker liners/spacers/bits to give them more wiggle room.
 
My pocket worn old red stockman seems almost to have been designed to rub. I the spey rubs both the sheepsfoot and the liner.the sheepsfoot rubs both the spey and the main clip blade. I actually dig it, being in my opinion so compact, and none of the edges is affected. It did not occur to me that this might be a flaw.
 
stevomiller said:
My medium Case stockman has rub too. In my opinion, as long as opening and closing isn't impaired, or the edge damaged, it's a non-issue. I like it when they don't rub, but MANY do. Also, some patterns have used thicker liners/spacers/bits to give them more wiggle room.
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That's the difference-maker, more often than not. Makers have to walk a very fine line between a multi-blade knife that's relatively thin and 'pocket-friendly', and a more heavily/thickly-constructed knife with no rub at all between blades. Accepting a little rub between more closely-spaced blades, in a thinner profile, is usually the trade-off in making a knife compact enough that most will be willing to carry it, and therefore buy it in the first place. Some spacers inserted to spread the blades apart helps, but also widens the overall profile. Sometimes, but not always*, putting each of the three blades on it's own spring might help (no bending/crinking necessary, to make opposing blades close without rub). Otherwise, closely-spaced blades will have to be thicker and more rigid, to minimize lateral flex contributing to blade rub. If blades are thicker, springs are thicker. And all of a sudden, you have a knife that's significantly wider and heavier than it otherwise could be (probably more expensive, too).

* = Case's current '47 pattern stockman is built on 3 springs; one for each blade. On the plus side, it means the 3 blades shouldn't need any bending (crinking) to make opposing blades close properly without colliding. On the other hand, in this example, Case maintained the overall width about the same as a similar 2-spring knife, which keeps it more 'pocket friendly' in thickness. Maintaining the same overall thickness means the blades and springs are individually much thinner, and the blade spacing is very, very tight. So, it's not immune to blade rub either (I have a '47 pattern to prove it).


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The idea of blade rub being a problem never crossed my mind until I joined this forum. I just figured it was the nature of multi bladed knives. I'm not saying that it shouldn't bother you, just that it hasn't ever bothered me.

On the other hand, I picked up a few Schrade stockmen that I'm in the process of fixing up to working order that have the problem of the spey blade catching on the nail nick of the sheepsfoot. Annoying for sure. I'm trying to think of a way to fix it myself. Might involve grinding a swedge.......... But with a new knife I could see sending it in to see what they can do for you.
 
fx17 said:
Thanks guys, thats kinda what I thought. It's a user, so I'll probably just let is slide. Never had the problem with my Buck 303 (which has 3 springs),
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Bingo. For those to whom blade rub is unacceptable, a spring for each blade is a sure cure.
 
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I'm not dissing Case here, I like their knives...:D and I'll sell mine no time soon, but...
I have the following Stockmans (2 spring). 2 x Med RR's, 1 x CRKT, 1 x Large RR, 1 x Colt and none have blade rub. I can't help but find it irritating that many Case models exhibit blade rub at their price point, when these cheaper models don't.

As above, three springs does seem to be a good cure as well. I just compared my Buck (3 spring) to the Case and the Buck is maybe just short of 2mm thicker. With regard to pocket carry, I don't really notice the difference...;)

My large Case Stockman however, had zero blade rub..

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I went to a case outlet store and the guy working the counter took out a dozen stockman knives and they all had blade rub to some degree. He said lately it is more common than not. Never found a single one without the blade rub. It's not necessarily that big of on issue, but I don't think it should be as common as it is because , I've never had a victorinox sak that had blade rub, and they cost less to buy.
 
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