New cheap stainless bali

Is your latch also about 1/2 centimeter too long for the handles, at least in the closed position? I'm not too happy with this knife personallly...................Yes, it is. The reason being, IMHO and as Chuck pointed out, is the 'forgotten kick' on the blade choil. I think I might have a remedy for this, as addressed by Bandito( aka David Brunner), by putting a small rubber 'bumber' into the handle, under the choil, that has enough resiliency to take the pounding of manipulation. The Miller style knife I got from David works beautifully and has no blade kick. I'll give this a try and report back with the results................
 
Just gotta point out that even though these sound like a good sound starter or everyday user, I'd still choose a Jag over one of these sight unseen. The Jags are made in Nationalist China, whereas these, are from the less than friendly commie mainlanders. I'm picky about where my $'s go. My Jags came with a kick where its supposed to be, and my first one, although very loose after a couple months of play, still latches ok both ways. I sure was happy I discovered this site before I ever bought a bali, as I was leaning toward Bear, because of the USA made status, but I guess from what I read, my Jag was a better deal for much less money. I wonder what these might do to kick Jag into gear, and get them into a slightly better product, for a little more $.
 
Personally, I buy what is worth my money, regardless of where it came from. I don't think you can compare a Jag (with pot metal handles and crappy pins) to a SS knife.
 
Originally posted by NaTeDoGG

Personally, I buy what is worth my money, regardless of where it came from. I don't think you can compare a Jag (with pot metal handles and crappy pins) to a SS knife.

I agree totally to the crappy handles and pins...that why I wish they'd come up with a higher end, ss, possibly brass, and better pins. They'd still be importable if they came in and were assembled here. More choice of blade styles would be nice too.
They've gotta be selling a bunch of these things...it seems they are the only affordable piece, that has any merit. Until this new one from the PRC anyway. And I do have a hang-up about supporting the economy of any country that is an obviously sworn and very dangerous enemy to mine. Just my thing.

Phil
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Hey just thought to throw this to the top again. ive now seen these on Knifezilla for $40.;)
 
Oh yeah to add to Uncle Philthy:
last I checked we werent at war with China.:rolleyes: And so I dont see them as my sworn enemy.
Also I would have to go with everyone else, i buy what is good and worth my money. this looks like something I have to get and see myself.:D
 
Well first of all the knife looks decent and looks like it can take a beating like my jag.For the second thingy what do u ahve against chinese people ?"And I do have a hang-up about supporting the economy of any country that is an obviously sworn and very dangerous enemy to mine -Uncle Philthy " I mean whats up with this now ? Jags arent the best thing out there i know that but why do u have to blame it on China ?:confused: All in all the knife looks like a pretty good investment for a person starting to play with a bali.
 
Originally posted by Chinese man: Well first of all the knife looks decent and looks like it can take a beating like my jag.For the second thingy what do u ahve against chinese people ?"And I do have a hang-up about supporting the economy of any country that is an obviously sworn and very dangerous enemy to mine -Uncle Philthy " I mean whats up with this now ? Jags arent the best thing out there i know that but why do u have to blame it on China ?:confused: All in all the knife looks like a pretty good investment for a person starting to play with a bali.

Before this gets totally out of hand here, let me try to clarify:

I have nothing personal against ANY Asian people, more like a great respect that I learned the hard way in the early 60's in Vietnam.

I DO NOT respect the govt of the PRC, the facts of their track record in dealing with their own people, and neighbor nations, speaks for itself.

The new PRC import does indeed look like a pretty good piece for the money. I prefer not to send my dollars to support their economy. Once again, it's my own choice to make.

If it makes any diff, I ain't too crazy about the direction of our own govt either in these last several years. Ask yourself why any state/govt should fear the populace being able to keep/use ANY small arm for self defense purposes.

Phil
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I understand Uncle Philthy not wanting to give his financial support to the communist PRC. I don't see this as "having a problem with Chinese people". Not wanting to support the state run, state owned industry of a totalitarian police state does not make one ignorant.
 
$40 bucks:eek: The local flea market down the road from were I live has them for $20 :D ,Somebody's screwing somebody,If the Flea Market guys sell them for $20 then they are only paying about $8 or $10 bucks for 'em!!
Todd
 
Sorry i miss understood what u said:( I know that the chinese gov really really sucks its true. Although I live here and was born here I just wanted to sick up for my other country. I totally took it the wrong way so im sorry.The one true thing is that i guess in a way u are right about the giving our money to support their economy.I mean the chinese gov treats its people like poooo.....:barf: Sorry again!:(
 
Originally posted by Chinese man: Sorry i miss understood what u said:( I know that the chinese gov really really sucks its true. Although I live here and was born here I just wanted to sick up for my other country. I totally took it the wrong way so im sorry.The one true thing is that i guess in a way u are right about the giving our money to support their economy.I mean the chinese gov treats its people like poooo.....:barf: Sorry again!:(

No offence taken Ma' Fren'!! Just wanted to be sure (all of) you understand that I had/have no personal problem with Chinese folks. I love my Jags, and they're mfg'ed by Chinese people. I also totally 'love' Szechuan cuisine, and my lil' Norinco SKS carbine came from the Chicom mainland, as did the 19" monitor that supplies my viewing.

I only wish our friends in Tiawan would make a Jag as good as this new piece seems to be.

Dude in NC: Get back to your local flea mkt, and pick up one for me. I'll buy it from you at fair market value, and then I can appease my concience by not sending $'s directly to an importer. Whatcha think?

Best Regards,
Phil
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TODD!!!-- e-mail me directions to that flea market, Please.Comin From G'boro
Chinese Man-- much respect man. Wish I could own up to a misunderstanding as honorably as you did. :cool:
 
Originally posted by Chinese man:

>I totaly agree with u jags need to be made better!!!

I don't think they "need" to be better....they have a very affordable good product just the way they are. (Evident that Grand Master Clay, probably the Top-Gun Swinger, at least on the East coast, uses a Jag in a lot of his training vids) I think they 'could' be better, and still be reasonably affordable.

I also want and use my Jags for utility-carry purposes, not just as coffee table toys. Even with a concealed weapon permit, some local LEO might consider a bali contraband, and it's gone. I ain't the guy that'll spend $150-300 for a simple folder, to just have it confiscated. I'd hate to admit how many 125 Bucks, and quality Schrade folders I've lost over the years in one way or another. And I think the most I ever paid for one was $30.00.

A little simple machine work, and some easy to find parts, and anyone can make a Jag a pretty serious contender for an EDC knife. My point is, the Jag co. could do as well, with little added cost to the finished product.

Best Regards,

Phil
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Well I have personaly put in finishing nails for the pins but what else could u do to make it better ?:confused:
 
Originally posted by Chinese man:

Well I have personaly put in finishing nails for the pins but what else could u do to make it better ?

I have some rather sketchy instuctions that were posted on here several weeks back, by a man that uses "Balut" as his user name.
Maybe if he read's this, he'll repost, and supply a lil' more detail.

What I do have, is a model 23 Jag, that he had already done, (with some minor imperfections), and he offered it to me FOC. I naturally jumped on it, and I was amazed at the difference in how this knife fuctions, compared to my 'stock' model 25.

The basic process involves re-drilling the pivot holes in the blade to 3/16" (a high speed heavy duty bit is required). Installing 3/16od X 1/8id oillite bearings in the new holes you've drilled. Then countersink the existing holes in the handles a little bit. Then buying some 1/8" ss screws, (he says from an electrical supply place as I remember), to reassemble the piece. He also uses a brass washer on each side of the blade between the handles to take any excess play out. The finished product will swing as good and smooth as any of the high-end pieces, with little to no blade play, but will still likely break if you drop it on a very hard surface.

To do all this, you will need, or have access to, a decent drill press, a dremmel, a small vice, and some basic torx screw drivers.

I have yet to do my 25, but when I do I'll let you know how it turns out.

Phil
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