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[molletta]

The alternative steel is also available only in blocks.
Both will be saw. I am waiting the actual availability for both.
Usually those are low stock. They are expensive and available sizes are often unattractive. Round block or big dimension.

 

[Jenslkl]

Yeah it is often like that unfortunately. Expensive and big blocks. But i guess the steel companies don't want to set up a whole production for a steel thats only being sold in small quantities. It would make it a even more expensive, and they would sell even less.

I would love to hear what the other steel is by the way

 

[Neo]

Ningishzidda will have another steel with high wear and toughness.
Project is completed. Hope to go in production in this year.

How many do you think will be made?

 

[molletta]

If materials will be available soon, in this year.
I am serching advanced materials for handle and checking availability.

 

[Jenslkl]

If materials will be available soon, in this year.
I am serching advanced materials for handle and checking availability.

So this means you have decided what steel to use? Well it's no secret that i'm hoping for K490 at RC 62

When do you have a render ready to show at the forums? Or perhaps it's to early to even ask

 

[Neo]

If the project is completed he must have a render to show us

 

[Neo]

How would K490 compare to vanadis 4E ?

 

[Neo]

How would K490 compare to vanadis 4E ?

impact energy unnotched in joule

K890 at 60Rc is 105 j
K890 at 62Rc is 95 j
K490 at 62Rc is 80 j with the almost the same wear resistance as M4

http://www.bohler-edelstahl.com/files/K890DE.pdf
http://www.bohler-edelstahl.com/english/files/K490DE.pdf


Uddeholm Vanadis 4E ( Crucible has now created cpm 4V with the same make-up)

at 58 Rc is 70j
at 60 Rc is 60j
at 62 Rc is 50j
at 64 Rc is 40j

http://www.uddeholm.com/files/PB_Uddeholm_vanadis_4_extra_english.pdf

See for comparison : http://corse76.altervista.org/col.php?noti2=resilienza

I believe wear resistance is slightly less than M4

 

[molletta]

All steel that you write are third generation powder metallurgy. Croucible is second generation.
There is another steel that I'm even considering that it is not in the list....

But now Enki is coming...
Let's see if we can match the data Uddeholm or we can do better.
Up to now we have always done better.

 

[Neo]

All steel that you write are third generation powder metallurgy. Croucible is second generation.

I even believe Crucible has first generation powder metallurgy and carpenter second generation

 

[molletta]

I thought that Crucible was evolved to second.... I am wrong.

I this moment i think that very high quality steel metallurgy is made in Europe. It's the reason because i'm using those steel.

 

[jdm61]

The CPM 4V has a little bit more impact resistance at 58RC than the Vanadis, but at 60 and 62, it is almost exactly the same. I am not sure what the abrasion/wear resistance of the Vanadis 4E is, but the CPM 4V is supposed to be about the same as CPM S35V.

impact energy unnotched in joule

K890 at 60Rc is 105 j
K890 at 62Rc is 95 j
K490 at 62Rc is 80 j with the almost the same wear resistance as M4

http://www.bohler-edelstahl.com/files/K890DE.pdf
http://www.bohler-edelstahl.com/english/files/K490DE.pdf


Uddeholm Vanadis 4E ( Crucible has now created cpm 4V with the same make-up)

at 58 Rc is 70j
at 60 Rc is 60j
at 62 Rc is 50j
at 64 Rc is 40j

http://www.uddeholm.com/files/PB_Uddeholm_vanadis_4_extra_english.pdf

See for comparison : http://corse76.altervista.org/col.php?noti2=resilienza

I believe wear resistance is slightly less than M4

 

[Ravaillac]

So apparently the Enki is online on knife research website, but picture seems to be only a render.
Any news about that? Any review?

http://www.kniferesearch.com/JOO/index.php/en/products-menu-ita/enki-menu-en

 

[molletta]

Next month will be availble.

 

[Neo]

Maybe the Ningishzidda field knife will look more like a longer X5 with vanadis 4E steel

Ningishzidda will have another steel with high wear and toughness.
Project is completed. Hope to go in production in this year.

Molletta will the Ningishzidda or the Iago be made in 2013?

 

[molletta]

Iago in 2013.

Ningishzidda will have very new solution for materials, architecture, construction.
I thin it will be available in 2014.

Here the proto of Enki.
http://www.mollettaknives.com/progetti/knife-researh-enki.html