New Crkt Knives

C/K DRAGON is a must-have. Pure power :)

And about those steels - those 3CR14, 9CR18 are China steel names. CRKT are making their knives in China and use local materials - simple.

I suppose that 9cr18 are comparable with 440c in general but it won't be as clean.
 
Read closely. From what I saw everyone that has assisted opening is also available without or is made so it can be disengaged. Gimmick? I'd have to disagree but it's not a big deal.

I read the CRKT website again, and while I didn't see any mention of being able to disable the Outburst mechanism at first, some additional searching indicated that the spring can indeed be removed with no issues. I am very glad to learn this, and wish more companies would offer that option. Take, for instance, the Kershaw Ti/ZDP Leek. The torsion bar for the SpeedSafe can be removed, but this also eliminates the detent for the blade. Benchmade's website doesn't state anything about being able to disable the new Nitrous mechanism either. I personally don't find such mechanisms useful, and actually dislike the feeling of operating A/O knives. However, as I said, I'm certain they appeal to some people.
 
I like many of the new designs. I just wish there wasn't such a recent trend among manufacturers towards adding assisted-opening mechanisms to knives. I suppose gimmicks sell well with the masses. :(

That's why I'm excited about Kershaw's newer offerings. They have two flipper knives that aren't mechanized at all, but feel that way with how smooth the action is.

Like the Pharaoh, and think its great that its a button lock. JUST wish it was someone like Kershaw that was doing it and not CRKT. CRKT makes okay knives, but its just sad to see great designs get piss-poor materials for the execution of it.
 
I started this exact same thread on another site because the next knife I buy will be the AO Hissatsu folder(gimmicy toys are a guilty pleasure) and I had similar concerns about the crappy steel on some models.
From that way I read the specs on the 3CR14 steel it only has .3% carbon but the cromium should help bring up the hardness some. Like 5160 only having.5 carbon. It seems alot more suitable for things like the new tac tool where tougness is more important than a razor edge that retains well. It seems like a terrible choice though for multitool blades and other EDC knives. I did not even know there was a steel as crap as AUS4 used in knives, and 420J2 is usually what I expect from dollar store knives. If good stainless is so expensive use carbon steel and a coating.
 
Like the Pharaoh, and think its great that its a button lock. JUST wish it was someone like Kershaw that was doing it and not CRKT. CRKT makes okay knives, but its just sad to see great designs get piss-poor materials for the execution of it.

I'm not sure that's a fair statement. Granted, CRKT is not known for using high-end steels, but the Pharoah utilises AUS-8 which is definitely not "piss poor". Overall, it looks like quite a decent package. Kershaw, on the other hand, never seems to draw criticism for its materials, even though it used 440A in many models (models which were/are often recommended by members). I don't intend that to be a derogatory statement towards Kershaw, I simply feel that CRKT is too often the recipient of undeserved criticism. The company makes good, reasonably-priced knives, and its customer service is exceptional.
 
The company makes good, reasonably-priced knives, and its customer service is exceptional.

Correction, to be specific....By and large, they IMPORT good, reasonably-priced knives, and customer service is exceptional. Yes, they design the knives, or more correctly, pay royalties for designs, but they do not MAKE.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Correction, to be specific....By and large, they IMPORT good, reasonably-priced knives, and customer service is exceptional. Yes, they design the knives, or more correctly, pay royalties for designs, but they do not MAKE.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

So if I follow your argument correctly, Spyderco "makes" only a fraction of the knives listed in its catalog (all of which are excellent)? I just have difficulty making the connection. If a company contracts a particular factory to construct a product to its proprietary design, specs, and QC (even if that factory is not in the same country as its corporate offices and is used by other manufactures as well), we can't say that said company "makes" that product? Does Apple not "make" the iPod or MacBook, since both are designed in California yet constructed by factories in Asia that Apple contracts with? If the main point you're trying to make is that CRKT knives aren't made in the US, that's one thing. However, what you posted above seems like an argument in semantics.
 
I think it would make an interesting thread ( also shed light on the hypocrisy in the knife world ) to talk about why it is okay for one company to make knives in Taiwan/China and not another company.

Hope that makes sense I just woke up and waiting for coffee.

Ok , got my coffee.

Let's go further , there are a lot of folks on here who will not buy a knife if it is made in Taiwan or China and I can sympathize with them but , let's face it nearly everything you use (yes you, sitting there reading this) is made in a foriegn country , most likely somewhere in Asia.

I posted a few weeks back this theory.

When I was a kid I remember hearing from many elders (including my Dad) to never buy anything made in Japan "Buy American son !" :thumbup:
Well how long did that last ? Soon a lot of products we used around the house were made in Japan , names like Sony , Hitachi , Honda , etc were as common place as G.E. and the quality of the products was top notch.
So , it went from "never buy a rice burner" to... "Japanese cars are so much better on gas and cheaper in the long run blah blah".
It went from what was thought of as a cheap POS TV , to the premier TV manufacturer in the world. (what happened RCA ???)

This is only going to deepen over time , if your a skeptic and think all your stuff is made in the good 'ol US of A , look at the tag.
I'm looking around my room , what do I see...... A TV , hmm it is an RCA , let's see.. Wha !!? assembled in Thailand ! why , my Grandad used RCA , this is blasphemy ! my PC , my 5.1 speakers , my clock radio , my DVD players , the shelf my books rest on (made in Mexico) my cell phone , my MP3 player , this battery charger I'm looking at is a Radio Shack , on the back it says "custom manufactured in China for Radio Shack corporation" wanna know something ? it has worked like a charm for going on 6 years.
Look at the T shirt and underwear ,even your socks , I'm willing to bet they are not made in America , or your jeans or your coat you'll put on before you go outside.
Things are not like they were during our Grandparents age, for sure.
I bought a Marbles slipjoint not too long ago , paid $20 for it and you know what ? the quality is top fricking notch. Handle one for yourself if you dont believe me. Yeap , it is made in China. Seems sorta wierd that something so traditionally "American" could be made so well in China but they have gotten the hint that they will make it nowhere in the American market unless they offer top quality merchandise to us , too many of us will not buy thier cheap crap and they know this. So instead of the featherwieght knife made from Lord knows what steel of 4 years ago , they are putting out knives made from finer materials and better QC. This Marbles would have been right at home in my Grandpa's pocket , the jigged bone looks very nice , the three blade all have excellent W&T and snap with authority, all are sharp and take a nice edge , the heft of the knife alone is enough to tell you , you are holding something of substance.
Here's another thing , if we yearn so bad to harken back to the old times , why is it for what is considered a really good knife , one has to pay 4-500$ for it ? My Grandpa and his generation never would paid $400 for a knife ! Oh there were probably execpetions of course , those who could or would afford it but nowhere near like there is nowadays , face it that the internet has exploded our hobby to never before seen levels. A custom maker can make more $ now than he could 15 years ago , easily ! and that is 1000% in thanks to the internet and ease of communication.
I think I lost my point , hehehe. ah well.

My rule on buying a knife is if I am in doubt as to it's quality I will wait till someone else buys it then listen to what they say about it and go from there, I have not regretted buying a single one of my CRKT knives.
CRKT will do fine as long as they do not use junk materials , hopefully they know this from market research.
 
rebeltf, that's a great point and I agree. I've not had a CRKT knife I didn't like YET. All made in the Asian country de jour. Sure do like that triumph necker...

:D
 
I really like the lines of the C/K Dragon! I had been wanting a long pointing 'tactial' wharncliffe, and that looks like it will do nicely.

I am bummed about the choice of steel on the Dogfish though. I hope that it holds up better than it sounds like it will. It should be easy enough to strop on a cardboard box/leather belt, etc to keep sharp though. I really wish that it would have been AUS-8 though.
 
The M4 looks great (non AO for me), and the Anubis caught my eye. I loved the M16, M18 and M21 series, but got rid of them all.

Not trying to flame, but while CRKT has produced some great knives over the years, their recent offerings over the years just feel like United Cutlery to me. I still like the company though.

No reversible clip?

http://www.crkt.com/m4.html
 
Well this thread got very interisting. I own a M16 14 LE CRKT. I do not regret buying it for a day! I own a Kershaw made in China and the fit and finish is as good as any other Kershaw.(Sorry for my spelling, but I am tired and studying for exam)

Marthinus
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