New District 9 flipper. Ti, s35vn, bearings. New design from Mutant Flipper's maker.

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joeymoey said:
It looks like just about every other crappy titanium-prybar knife out there these days that is made in china and shilled on this board by someone who can barely speak English with a postcount of around 5-10. These posts pop up approx. once a week. I can't believe anyone would waste their money on these PoS types of knives.
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I applaud and fully support Chinese makers attempting to break the stereotype of crappy production knives and cheap knockoffs. There are a handful of Chinese brands attempting to make original designs from high end materials for decent prices, and I am glad that they are.
 
200.
i suppose, just as the previous knife mutant flipper. Adai. 99,9%
hong kong post 10 dollars

"My only two "cons":

1. I'm not familiar with the maker, so it's a $200 gamble to me."
he sold many customized mutants, no one said anything bad, while it was definitely higher price for customized ones. i ordered one droppoint (didn't have more money), i will try to make some kind of review
"2. I'm not a "deep carry only" guy, but that thing looks like it rides about 30% out of pocket. Whoa... "
under T-shirt, huh?

"crappy"
"titanium-prybar knife"
wow, man...how do you combine these 4 words? did you at least see vininull's hard use test of zt ? such knives really cope.
"by someone who can barely speak English "
it's russia, baby! no one from where i was teached knows God's language good enough!
"super thick blade stock "
just 4 mm, it isn't SUPER thick. imho super thick is dendra tiger jump which is 5.6mm, or marauder, 6.6mm. still i consider 4 mm good enough for prybar style. edge angle is - the more the better. for prybar. as of now, i carry 0.3mm bevel shirogorov f3 for cutting and hinderer spanto for hard use. not saying about 810, srm, and tiger jump. just i like how xm flips and sound of locking up, while dendra doesn't cost much and i don't care if i break it. i also don't care to carry 5 flashlights, some pens and other shit. i really like to be prepared. and i used it really. if carrying only one (and weak) knife, for example legendary-cutting military of spyderco is your choice - ok, break it at the first chance if need to pull some letter from mailbox or some other case. i go to eat, will answer later
 
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"If you're going to make a pry bar, make a pry bar. If you're going to make a knife, make a knife. If you're going to make a folding pry bar, it better do both excellently."
nah, man. shaving aluminum, opening cans, piercing stainless steel sheets, batoning - not every knife cope it. you should watch video "убийство поднебесных" , there is some result of batoning. half of cutting edge side of blade just broke out. you should understand, for this one needs a thick bevel and a thick spine, to perform. dull angle and shit.
"the knife does look like it has excellent fit and finish."
i have reate horizon and mutant flipper. The quality of Adai made knives is just great. blade of horizon drops until its closed. just need good oil, maybe benchmade's is fine, just i used russian ballistol, this makes a thin film which is bad. when it isn't frozen yet, the blade moves under its weight, WITHOUT touching framelock. there was some other knives by adai, having same thing, they are smooth and feel great, fit and finish is good. i saw enough broken microtech's, with awful quality, which prices are really high. here the price is right. steel is better, s35vn vs just ats-34, the handle - titanium vs aluminum, overall quality is higher and the price is 1/3 lower. not saying very limited batch vs simple serial knife.
"I like it. Not a big fan of s35vn though"
man, you should really see that hard-use vid. D2 is still the best for hard-use, from what i see in his vids, but s35vn was the second. VERY impressed. never expected a powder steel, especially s35vn, for hard-use.
"If these specs are anywhere near accurate"
regarding adai, i am 100% sure about s35vn for steel and titanium for handle, it is VERY common now for best chinese companies. their s35vn show good ht. m390 didn't, though. although it still was good enough.
"custom"
not custom, it is biaoge's friend's design, and biaoge made it reality, so....just VERY limited quantity.
"I applaud and fully support Chinese makers attempting to break the stereotype of crappy production knives and cheap knockoffs."
even knock-offs are already not cheap ones. what i saw, was better than microtech for sure. matt cucchiara semi-finished dorado was flipping great, just teflon washers, while "made in italy" (haha, who does believe it?!) lionsteel dendra with same washers isn't flipping at all, even untightened pivot with blade play. the quality is really much better than lionsteel's dendra's.
 
while you see what the so-called engineers of spyderco made with their first flipper (breaks at a hole, but not at spyderhole), the winner hi-jinx of crkt has the same construction. when i saw it construction, i got to know, i will never buy this "winner of great expo". though i like the steel, it is about like d2, the thickness of the blade spine isn't bad for hard-use, though i am not sure about the tip. but here you have no-bullshit, tough, overbuilt, hinderer-like construction, which approves it's power for many years. and after our great tester vininull performed hard-use with zt 0550.... nothing left to doubt about it.
 
filtrum said:
i NEVER thought about weight. though i am not very strong. i really never understood that weight thing. what i only see is a very strong, prybar-like looking, undestructible, awesome nice knife, ready for hard-use. while strider's shape never looked so. yes, zt 0550 looks more brutal, but it is NOT flipper and thickness, i had it, was NOT 4mm. no way. that is very pity. because it is my favourite design, and the only design i like from zt available, because they didn't make cagins on 0560, so it is not ok for hard-use, you can find "russian hard-use" video at youtube, big damage.
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If the ZT 0560 can not handle it then you really should be using a fixed blade most likely or a tool made for what your doing.
 
Insulting reputable manufacturers is not the way to win business. And where is your vendor account? You have to pay money to hawk your wares here.
 
Admittedly I did not read some of the posts above, far too long run-on sentences....


But, I did just order one of the drop point variations from Reate. Thus far I'm aware of two vendors for this knife, Reate and bgknives on instagram. All of the pics in the first post are from bgknives.


I'm unsure of who the actual manufacturer is; bgknives was hesitant to say but assured me that the quality was top notch. He has two vids where he beats the crap out of this thing on a solid piece of wood.


I'll be sure to do a review video once I have it in hand a few days for use and breaking in. Here are some vids in the meantime:


[video=youtube_share;oqby4Yh_csU]http://youtu.be/oqby4Yh_csU[/video]

[video=youtube_share;LxXeYWTGTkY]http://youtu.be/LxXeYWTGTkY[/video]
 
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"If the ZT 0560 can not handle it then you really should be using a fixed blade most likely"
i don't like fixeds. and i don't want to use them therefore. bearings on 0560 aren't caged, that's it. don't need to say it is good for hard use and one should try it for it.
"reputable manufacturers"
i don't like when "reputable" manufacturers make garbage, after that i, sitting in russia (which is full of thieves), buying it, getting it and discovering that knife breaks in the first 5 days (!!!), don't have ANY will to go to the other site of vladivostok, which isn't small and the needed bus goes one time per about two hours, sometimes you can't get into it, so full of people it is, after it, spend three hours to wait to get to main post, wait in turn, spend money and time to send it and after that try to get home for the next hour. i simply don't need it. REPUTABLE manufacturer must make NORMAL knives, not crap. and, at least, send parts which are broken, not give that shit "this is against our policy blablablablabla". to make customer SATISFIED. for he paid hundreds of dollars. and feeled sorrow when the knife broke. nobody at russian forum is saying microtech make good quality knives. or that lionsteel's dendra knife flips. 200$!!!
now, "not the way to win business." the only business i can have is if i buy ONE knife and try to resell it in russia. because i spent all money on hinderers. you just look at my ip. "MY wares" ahahahaha. definitely biaoge doesn't live in vladivostok. you need to understand there are some good people in russia, which are made in limited batches;) which are so happy to find a really nice knife, so they immediately try to help others to know about it. because it is too small chance to get smth really interesting,
i couldn't find smth as good as this one. i really like the design of 560, even thought to ask some russian knifemaker to make it flip with washers, it would be great. but it is expensive work, while here we have a great knife just for 200 dollars! and blade length is bigger, which i really appreciate. point me a beautiful overbuilt flipper with such a blade length and awesome flip for such a price. dendra with simple d2 for 200 more dollars doesnt' flip? oh
 
"hesitant"
strange.
but just as i thought, the maker is Adai, like it was of his previous flipper. because Reate sold you one. Adai is Reate, again.
 
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filtrum said:
"hesitant"
strange.
but just as i thought, the maker is Adai, like it was of his previous flipper. because Reate sold you one. Adai is Reate, again.
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Your posts are really hard to read, but I'll respond to this.

I don't know who the maker is; and frankly I don't really care. If the design is original enough, and the quality is there, then I'll buy it.

My Reate Horizon A is my favorite knife purchase this year. Quality, ergos, flipping action and customer service have all been exemplary. I feel like the $300 I spent was a steal.

I've seen your posts on other Chinese knife threads as well, you seem to have a massive ax to grind with Chinese knives in general. Which is fine, everyone needs a hobby. I'd suggest you actually try one sometime, then give feedback.

Cheers.
 
do we have like a google translation for us other folks? I can't understand anything that's being said!
 
skyhorse said:
Maybe a good time to get a dealer membership,just saying.;):)
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This! Way too many of these threads are spam. Opinions on knife origin, politics of design borrowing, and taste in knife design aside, this forum has some basic rules. If you are related to a maker/manufacturer, and you make posts like this, you are stealing from this site.
 
I don't understand all the fuzz...

Just seeing the picture and reading the specs, I like the looks of the first knife a lot.
Wouldn't mind having a solid piece like that in my pocket.
I don't use pocket clips anyway so I don't mind that this one isn't riding the pocket deep... I'd take if of anyway ;)

Ofcoarse it would help to actually hold it and use it to state a better opinion...
but from pictures and specs it seems like a lot of knife to me :)
 
Lost Cosmonaut said:
I applaud and fully support Chinese makers attempting to break the stereotype of crappy production knives and cheap knockoffs. There are a handful of Chinese brands attempting to make original designs from high end materials for decent prices, and I am glad that they are.
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Look at Quartermaster knives,they're made in China.;):)
 
With all this naming the source and listing prices, this thread is too much like shilling. You need to put that sort of talk in the Exchange or in a manufacturer or knifemaker hosted forum. I am closing this.

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filtrum, I know how hard it is to communicate in someone else's language, but please, at least paragraph. See what I did with this:

filtrum said:
"If the ZT 0560 can not handle it then you really should be using a fixed blade most likely"

i don't like fixeds. and i don't want to use them therefore. bearings on 0560 aren't caged, that's it. don't need to say it is good for hard use and one should try it for it.

"reputable manufacturers"

i don't like when "reputable" manufacturers make garbage, after that i, sitting in russia (which is full of thieves), buying it, getting it and discovering that knife breaks in the first 5 days (!!!), don't have ANY will to go to the other site of vladivostok, which isn't small and the needed bus goes one time per about two hours, sometimes you can't get into it, so full of people it is,

after it, spend three hours to wait to get to main post, wait in turn, spend money and time to send it and after that try to get home for the next hour. i simply don't need it.

REPUTABLE manufacturer must make NORMAL knives, not crap. and, at least, send parts which are broken, not give that shit "this is against our policy blablablablabla". to make customer SATISFIED. for he paid hundreds of dollars. and feeled sorrow when the knife broke. nobody at russian forum is saying microtech make good quality knives. or that lionsteel's dendra knife flips. 200$!!!

now, "not the way to win business." the only business i can have is if i buy ONE knife and try to resell it in russia. because i spent all money on hinderers. you just look at my ip. "MY wares" ahahahaha. definitely biaoge doesn't live in vladivostok.

you need to understand there are some good people in russia, which are made in limited batches;) which are so happy to find a really nice knife, so they immediately try to help others to know about it. because it is too small chance to get smth really interesting,

i couldn't find smth as good as this one. i really like the design of 560, even thought to ask some russian knifemaker to make it flip with washers, it would be great. but it is expensive work, while here we have a great knife just for 200 dollars! and blade length is bigger, which i really appreciate. point me a beautiful overbuilt flipper with such a blade length and awesome flip for such a price. dendra with simple d2 for 200 more dollars doesnt' flip? oh
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I will say, your English grammar is not bad. I think you wrote a lot of this quickly. Maybe proofread before you post, to smooth it out a bit.
 
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