New "Dream Blade" material?

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Hadn’t been around for a bit, but ran across something today that put me in mind of you guys and gals.

According to a Wall Street Journal article on Oct. 5, 2010, two scientists at the University of Manchester in Britain received the Nobel Prize in physics last year for their work on a material they call “graphene”, the fundamental structure of which is a stable sheet of crystalline graphite only one atom thick.

The article states that graphene is believed to be the thinnest and strongest material in the world, more than one hundred times as strong as the strongest steel. It is "virtually transparent, extremely dense, and impermeable to gases and liquids," according to the article.

"It's stiffer than a diamond. At the same time, you can stretch it like rubber," said one of the scientists who discovered it.

I copied the article when first published and ran across it again today. The focus of the original piece was in electronics, as the material is potentially much more efficient than silicon for use in making tinier computer chips.

But suddenly I was struck with the possibility that by using layers of this material to form a blade, a stable edge potentially much thinner than the current 1-micron standard might be achieved, which seems in turn to suggest a much more efficient cutting edge than anything currently imaginable. With the “toughness of rubber and the strength of a diamond”, does this strike anyone else as a promising material for blades?

In describing the science behind graphene, the Nobel committee noted that a one-square-meter graphene hammock would be nearly invisible and also able to bear the weight of a four-kilogram (8.8 pound) cat. The hammock itself would weigh less than a single cat whisker.
 
Geez. If they turn it into knives, I'm sure it won't be in my lifetime. And I shudder to think what it'd cost.

Awesome sounding stuff, though I'd wonder if you can "stretch it like rubber" but it's "stiffer than a diamond" how you would actually manage to form it into something like a blade without allowing too much of either aspect to take over (and either have a wobbly knife, or a shattering knife).
 
Yeah but can it protect you from all of the Fairy folk like a good steel knife can?

And I quote...

"The great protection against the Fairy race is iron, or preferably steel. The metal can be in any form : a sword, a knife, a pair of scissors, a needle, a nail, a ring, a bar, a fish-hook. On entering a Fairy dwelling, a piece of steel stuck in the door, takes from the Fairies the power of closing it till the intruder comes out again. A knife stuck in a deer carried home at night keeps them from laying their weight on the animal. A knife or nail in one's pocket prevents his being `lifted' at night. Nails in the front bench of the bed keep elves from women `in the straw', and their babes. As additional safe-guards, the smoothing iron should be put below the bed, and the reaping-hook in the window. A nail in the carcass of a bull that fell over a rock was believed to preserve its flesh from them."

SO I say you can keep yer lousy super stuff.

I always wear a knife in my sock, and the leprechauns never lifted me at night.

See how good it works?

Shane
 
Can u post a link to this artical

Sorry I don't have a link, just the copied article, and my WSJ online subscription has expired. But if someone has an active WSJ subscription, you can search the title of the article: "Ultrathin Carbon Earns Nobel" published 10-5-10.

Good points on the structural questions about forming a knife blade out of the stuff, but it does stir my blood to see materials like this out on the horizon. Who knows what we may be cutting our steaks with in 15-20 years--maybe INFI/Graphene san mai? :D
 
1mm thick is 3 million layers!

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So, if Horton needed a piece 1/2" thick to make one of his uber tough knives, how many layers is that??? :confused:

I'll bet he would go thru a few belts grinding it!!! :eek:


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Good to see you around Will stick around awhile have a drink and relax. :thumbup:
 
I already made a chopper with this stuff.

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I'm in Will! A knife just a couple of atoms thick would definitely ease my carry burdens. I don't know if I trust myself with a knife that sharp that I couldn't see -- except by the results.
 
Once layers of graphene are stacked together to create a 3d structure, that structure is graphite. Unfortunately, graphite does not make a great structural material, as there are no chemical bonds between the layers or sheets of graphene. This is, however, a reason why graphite makes a good lubricant...

You can have your graphite knife. I'll keep my steel knives.

From wikipedia..."...It is now well known that tiny fragments of graphene sheets are produced (along with quantities of other debris) whenever graphite is abraded, such as when drawing a line with a pencil... In 2004, the Manchester group obtained graphene by mechanical exfoliation of graphite. They used cohesive tape to repeatedly split graphite crystals into increasingly thinner pieces. The tape with attached optically transparent flakes was dissolved in acetone, and, after a few further steps, the flakes including monolayers were sedimented on a silicon wafer."

Doesn't sound like it would make a great blade- being pencil lead and all...
 
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100x stronger than steel and transparent. I think someone just got a visit from Scotty.

Find any Nukulur Wessels?
 
100x stronger than steel and transparent. I think someone just got a visit from Scotty.

In the film version of the article, Scotty is aware that the two University of Manchester scientists were the "discoverers", and concludes that his visit is a predestination paradox. This stops Dr. McCoy's whining about the potentially of disrupting the timeline.

Find any Nukulur Wessels?

Chekov is still looking for them in Alameda.


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