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New GEC and where do they go?
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I've wondered the same thing. They seem to just drop off into a black hole. I assume that dealers take advance orders and if the orders exceed or match the available number of knives produced, then you wouldn't actually see the knife at a dealers site.
I believe some of it is what 22 said. Some of it may be the knives they showed were SFOs on top of existing runs and my only appear at 1 dealer. For example, there were yellow bone #42s in 440C made as part of the recent run that were an SFO for a Texas based non-BF dealer. That dealer was the only one that had them and only had a few at that. They were all listed as sold within days of them being completed.
Some dealers do "early bird" pre orders, some of the knives you see may also be "SFO"s, (special factory order) for a particular dealer. You would have to know which dealer that was to find them. I too was mystified about this when new around these parts.
Is there a particular one that you spotted and are curious about prisoner6?
Is there a particular one that you spotted and are curious about prisoner6?
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The OD Green Linen Micarta, African Blackwood and Cocobolo Vipers. I see others from this time frame fro sale, but never these.
I guess I still have to figure out some of the nuances of all of this.
I am looking to pick up a Viper as an everyday carry and the Micarta would have been first choice for that, so it just got me to looking.
Even if you know what dealer, how do you know what they have pre-orders for?
The OD Green Linen Micarta, African Blackwood and Cocobolo Vipers. I see others from this time frame fro sale, but never these.
I guess I still have to figure out some of the nuances of all of this.
I am looking to pick up a Viper as an everyday carry and the Micarta would have been first choice for that, so it just got me to looking.
Even if you know what dealer, how do you know what they have pre-orders for?
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GEC has a list of dealers on their website. Bookmark them and check each one.
My opinion about pre-ordering has changed over time... I don't like it. Dealers have to do what they have to do to make money (the competition is fierce), but I think it borders on a kind of "secret squirrel society" and has gotten tiresome. My new attitude is I'll buy it if it's on the site or get one on the secondary market.
I know how confusing it can be to folks who are new to a brand. I'm not sure that is a good thing. JMHO.
My opinion about pre-ordering has changed over time... I don't like it. Dealers have to do what they have to do to make money (the competition is fierce), but I think it borders on a kind of "secret squirrel society" and has gotten tiresome. My new attitude is I'll buy it if it's on the site or get one on the secondary market.
I know how confusing it can be to folks who are new to a brand. I'm not sure that is a good thing. JMHO.
The OD Green Micarta Vipers sold in a matter of days and I remember seeing the Blackwood version up for sale for a few days on several dealer sites. Check the exchange here on this forum multiple times per days as I have seen several of these sell there in the last few weeks.
Several GEC dealers take pre-orders and have access to the production lists, so you can reserve your spot in advance.
Go to their websites and check for links or call them. I know of at least three that have instructions on their web sites on how to pre-order. Pre-ordering requires a leap of faith, since there are no finished models for you to look at, and it's first-come first served. Some product runs are completely purchased via pre-order and only the less popular handle materials make it to the storefronts.
For SFOs you have to know who placed the order and how to purchase through that person or dealer. GEC often lists contact information for SFOs.
Stick around a while and observe. You will learn the GEC culture and quirks of acquiring the knives pretty soon, since this forum on occasion resembles a stealth marketing tool for that one company.
Go to their websites and check for links or call them. I know of at least three that have instructions on their web sites on how to pre-order. Pre-ordering requires a leap of faith, since there are no finished models for you to look at, and it's first-come first served. Some product runs are completely purchased via pre-order and only the less popular handle materials make it to the storefronts.
For SFOs you have to know who placed the order and how to purchase through that person or dealer. GEC often lists contact information for SFOs.
Stick around a while and observe. You will learn the GEC culture and quirks of acquiring the knives pretty soon, since this forum on occasion resembles a stealth marketing tool for that one company.
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Great Eastern has to decide 45+ days ahead of time how many of a certain run to make. Many times they will ask dealers and many times they will make a decision based on other information. Many times they hit it pretty close, sometimes they don't. I can understand how it would be frustrating to see a knife just come on the market and not have access to it. But it seems like it would be significantly more frustrating to have known for a month a knife you really wanted was coming, and have no access to it. There is no conspiracy to make short runs of highly desired knives, just to keep a market frothing for them.
I do not offer early reservations to force people to participate in a mad rush to get their name on a knife; I do it is so I can have an intelligent guess as to how many to order to accommodate anybody that wanted one. Even then, many people either wait until they see them on the assembly line or finishing table pictures before deciding they like it or dislike it. That is all well and good, just prohibits it from being an exact science. And, for my part, the reason I keep a strict list is to avoid any questions about having a good ole boy network.
Maybe it would solve some problems if GEC ran like Case and just re-ran specific knives when stock ran low. But it seems like it would prohibit many aspects of their market that customers have grown fond.
To the SFO's; I don't blame the factory for liking the fact that a full run is sold before they start on it, as opposed to have to worry what will / will not sale for them. The worst thing for a factory is finished product inventory. But they seem very balanced in that they don't let the SFO orders consume a significant amount of their production schedule, but still enough to fill in the gaps between general runs.
I do not offer early reservations to force people to participate in a mad rush to get their name on a knife; I do it is so I can have an intelligent guess as to how many to order to accommodate anybody that wanted one. Even then, many people either wait until they see them on the assembly line or finishing table pictures before deciding they like it or dislike it. That is all well and good, just prohibits it from being an exact science. And, for my part, the reason I keep a strict list is to avoid any questions about having a good ole boy network.
Maybe it would solve some problems if GEC ran like Case and just re-ran specific knives when stock ran low. But it seems like it would prohibit many aspects of their market that customers have grown fond.
To the SFO's; I don't blame the factory for liking the fact that a full run is sold before they start on it, as opposed to have to worry what will / will not sale for them. The worst thing for a factory is finished product inventory. But they seem very balanced in that they don't let the SFO orders consume a significant amount of their production schedule, but still enough to fill in the gaps between general runs.