New Knife, New trap !!!

[pitdog]

I never know where to put some of my posts so if it shouldn't be here feel free to move it !

Summer has made a brief comeback here so I headed off out with the girls and my new knife~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

A while back I got the itch for a scandi knife something along the lines of a Mora. What confused me on the forums was that while everyone said how much they loved how their Mora's performed when they ordered custom scandi's they were worlds away from Mora's ???
If you like how a thin bladed Mora performs then why order a scandi made from 3/16" stock ?
So I got to messaging Mark Wohlwend about this and between us we came up with what Mark called the Pitdog Mora. Still a tad thicker than a Mora but still thin with a very similar blade profile~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

The spine looks to be the same size as my SAK~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

I'm really liking this knife already but what I plan to do is a little testing alongside some of my other Bushcrafty type blades !

Weather was a bit warm for Maisy girl !

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

This face has trouble written all over it eh !!!!

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

I decided to make a trap that I hadn't done for quite some time, the Ojibwa bird snare~

I baited the trap with a tasty looking berry ~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

The weight at the back~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

I should have played around with the trap to make it a little more sensitive but I was being eaten alive by mozzy's and Maisy ate the berry as soon as it dropped !

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[beanbag]

If you like how a thin bladed Mora performs then why order a scandi made from 3/16" stock ?
So I got to messaging Mark Wohlwend about this and between us we came up with what Mark called the Pitdog Mora. Still a tad thicker than a Mora but still thin with a very similar blade profile~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

As you know Pit, I've got one of these also. Though it is a great knife- thin like a Mora, with the same general blade shape, I'm finding the blade height, relative to a standard Mora, to be a bit too tall for wood carving.

I'm thinking maybe it's time to call Mark with my own Mora design- The low profile Beanbag Mora. With all my cred on this forum, I'm sure that would be a big seller.

 

[WILLIAM.M]

Pit---

First you take great photos--and make me want to go there

Then you start to design knives I want

Keep that up----Please

 

[pitdog]

As you know Pit, I've got one of these also. Though it is a great knife- thin like a Mora, with the same general blade shape, I'm finding the blade height, relative to a standard Mora, to be a bit too tall for wood carving.

I'm thinking maybe it's time to call Mark with my own Mora design- The low profile Beanbag Mora. With all my cred on this forum, I'm sure that would be a big seller.

Hey buddy, how do ya mean too tall for wood carving ? I have just been out and played around with this a little and it seems to carve just fine. I will be the first to admit that I ain't up to much with my carving skills, fuzz sticks, trap triggers and chili stirrers when camping and that's about my limit, LOL !

I tested it at some fuzzy's alongside my ML Kephart and Dan Koster Nessmuk, as you can see from the pic it did good at that~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

I then carved up a quick Chili stirrer, I found it had great control taking off thin slivers when I wanted to yet biting in deep when roughing out~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

If I had to nit pick I'd say it could have done with the handle slabs being slightly thicker but it's very rare I carve long enough for this to be an issue !

 

[beanbag]

Hey buddy, how do ya mean too tall for wood carving ? I have just been out and played around with this a little and it seems to carve just fine. I will be the first to admit that I ain't up to much with my carving skills, fuzz sticks, trap triggers and chili stirrers when camping and that's about my limit, LOL !

If I had to nit pick I'd say it could have done with the handle slabs being slightly thicker but it's very rare I carve long enough for this to be an issue !

I didn't mean to nit pick. It is a great knife, and the Osage handle on mine is pretty beefy and hand filling- I really like that.

I tested out carving one of these bottle openers that I like to gift to my imbibing friends.

It was too tall to carve that concave curve. The same was true with the tight curves on a spoon I did.

I use primarily use Moras for my carving, but I suppose this blade wasn't really billed as a carving knife after all.

BTW, those tiny hands in the second picture belong to my son.

 

[pitdog]

I didn't mean to nit pick. It is a great knife, and the Osage handle on mine is pretty beefy and hand filling- I really like that.

I tested out carving one of these bottle openers that I like to gift to my imbibing friends.

It was too tall to carve that concave curve. The same was true with the tight curves on a spoon I did.

I use primarily use Moras for my carving, but I suppose this blade wasn't really billed as a carving knife after all.

BTW, those tiny hands in the second picture belong to my son.

Mmm....I'll have to keep you updated on how I find it after more use !

Love that bottle opener idea...very nifty !!!!

I'll be sure to keep my eye out for your Beanbag Mora.....we sure keep Mark busy between us all eh !

 

[kgd]

Cool looking knife Pit. Thats a user I'd have no problems with!

 

[KiljoyKutlery]

I didn't mean to nit pick. It is a great knife, and the Osage handle on mine is pretty beefy and hand filling- I really like that.

I tested out carving one of these bottle openers that I like to gift to my imbibing friends.

It was too tall to carve that concave curve. The same was true with the tight curves on a spoon I did.

I use primarily use Moras for my carving, but I suppose this blade wasn't really billed as a carving knife after all.

BTW, those tiny hands in the second picture belong to my son.

Great looking knife Pitdog,
Hey Beanbag, Troegs is some good stuff, huh? The make a pretty insane IPA.

 

[beanbag]

Seeing how this is your design, I suppose this doesn't qualify as a hijack. So.......

I made a fuzzy when I got home from work and took some comparison pics of my osage PitMora alongside one of my favorite Classic Moras, the 911.

The P.M. did a good job and was very comfortable. Note the kydex sheath in the background- You don't get that with a Mora.

Like I mentioned before, BIG difference in the blade height.

It's a keeper and will make a great field knife, but this is a big blade for sure.

 

[Slider817]

Thanks so much for sharing, wish I could get outside this summer

 

[A.W.U.K.]

Glad someone is having decent weather
Nice knife

 

[Waldganger]

Hey Pitdog, did you bore a hole into the three for that? How did you do it?

The knife would be a little bit tall for carving, but only in relation to turning in the wood, and you could get around that by using the tip. For simple traps and camp craft I doubt it would matter, for more extensive carving a mora 120 would probably be a better idea.

 

[tknife]

Looks like a beautiful alternative to a Mora, I like it! :thumbup: Mark does some great work, still need to get something from him one of these days.

 

[Bladite]

omg a pit bull type dog! omg! must pet it!

 

[pitdog]

Hey Pitdog, did you bore a hole into the three for that? How did you do it?

The knife would be a little bit tall for carving, but only in relation to turning in the wood, and you could get around that by using the tip. For simple traps and camp craft I doubt it would matter, for more extensive carving a mora 120 would probably be a better idea.

Yes buddy, that's the hardest part of making this trap. I use the awl on my SAK, I'd definitely say pick a tree that's on the thinner side or if ya in a real survival situation carve some of the tree away on either side so you don't have so much to bore through. As this is just practicing I would rather go for the thinner tree as I know from past experience that the tree recovers from this small hole just fine.

 

[bkduckworth]

That is a sweet design, I really like it. Nice work on the traps and bottle openers as well fellas!

 

[LMT66]

Great post Pit!

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day Pit

...... A while back I got the itch for a scandi knife something along the lines of a Mora. What confused me on the forums was that while everyone said how much they loved how their Mora's performed when they ordered custom scandi's they were worlds away from Mora's ???
If you like how a thin bladed Mora performs then why order a scandi made from 3/16" stock ?
So I got to messaging Mark Wohlwend about this and between us we came up with what Mark called the Pitdog Mora. Still a tad thicker than a Mora but still thin with a very similar blade profile~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

The spine looks to be the same size as my SAK~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-19

IMO it is going to be totally dependent on the type of wood you have at hand & what you expect your knife to be required to do.

To put this into perspective, I take it that you realise that Moras are designed for Scandinavian countries where soft woods dominate. :thumbup:

Naturally they will have thinner blades & edges that will stand up to use on "soft woods".

How do you reckon the same zero ground "scandi grinds" that are often touted as being the "bees knees:" would hold up on woods that I described as hardwoods?

Recently I took an US made Convex ground 1/8th inch O1 blade bush for as week. I have nothing but praise for the heat treat of the knife that I used. Obviously the maker knows what they are doing. :thumbup::thumbup:

But have a long look at the following included videos.

[video=youtube;WRKtwcDBIUY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRKtwcDBIUY[/video]

[video=youtube;ikesSLneHwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikesSLneHwI[/video]

[video=youtube;ikesSLneHwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikesSLneHwI[/video]

I assume that you have enough experience to realise that seasoned wood is always a sh!t load easier to spilt than green wood?

The end of the video here should indcate how green the hardwood was & how much harder it was to split than seasoned hardwood. :thumbup: [video=youtube;dArCtdx-UX0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dArCtdx-UX0[/video]

As you can see from the included videos, IMO this knife still did very well when it came to slicing & cross grain cutting of what I describe as hardwoods as shown here:
[video=youtube;NJ7yBaVNrDU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7yBaVNrDU[/video]

IMO, the thinness of the blade was no help what so ever when it came to splitting kindling out of the types of wood that I need to use it on. :thumbup:

Just goes to show that when it comes to the internet, like condoms, one size really doesn't fit all :thumbup:





Kind regards
Mick

 

[pitdog]

Wow Mick, that was some damn hard stuff you were battling with there buddy !!!!

I never meant to imply that the thin stock of my knife or the grind would assist me in splitting wood. I bought this knife for food prep and the odd bit of whittling that I do on my travels be it fuzz sticks or trap triggers.
For splitting wood I prefer a thick beast of a knife with a thick saber grind like my Chopweiler~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-03-04

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-22

 

[Waldganger]

Wow Mick, that was some damn hard stuff you were battling with there buddy !!!!

I never meant to imply that the thin stock of my knife or the grind would assist me in splitting wood. I bought this knife for food prep and the odd bit of whittling that I do on my travels be it fuzz sticks or trap triggers.
For splitting wood I prefer a thick beast of a knife with a thick saber grind like my Chopweiler~

By pitdog2010 at 2011-03-04

By pitdog2010 at 2011-07-22

Shit that looks like it hurt!