New Manix XL......I Like It But......

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Now, if Spyderco could just make a knife of this type without the choil!

Andy

Only if it gets a flipper.

It's actually kind of a tough call though.
In theory, I want knives to have the edge as close to my hand as possible, giving me the most leverage and the maximum amount of cutting edge.
In practice, I want a knife to have a safety in case the lock fails. The choil on my Chinook 3 actually saved me from my own stupidity while I was abusing the knife, ever since then I have been pretty firm on making sure my hard use knives will hit my fingers with the tang and not the blade if the lock fails. A flipper is the best compromise between the two that I've seen (and it's handy for opening the knife). It's a shame that the design of the Ball Lock doesn't allow for flippers, most Compression lock knives on the other hand could probably take one without changing anything on the handle.
I think Spyderco should put a flipper on every knife that doesn't have a choil, but that's just me.
 
It takes me 2 fingers for the Manix 2 and the XL. Seems to be pretty easy with both IMO.
Could a Manix 2 XL owner comment on how easy or difficult it is to close it one-handed?

The handles don't look too much bigger than the standard version to me.

I find that I have to use two fingers (thumb and index) to close my Manix 2.

I just can't get a grip on it to close it with just my thumb (like the Benchmade Axis-Lock).
 
I'm still loving my original large (I may have melted it a bit):
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I'm starting to see the Manix 2 XL in stock at a lot of my favourite knife retailers... It seems to be going for just a bit more than the Para 2, which is a pretty sweet price. Goddamn but it's getting hard to resist the temptation to buy another knife...
 
I would love it if the original "Man's Manix" would come back in all it's glory. I was just getting into knives when it came out and was out of my measly price range.. now it would be a definitive add.
 
I would love it if the original "Man's Manix" would come back in all it's glory. I was just getting into knives when it came out and was out of my measly price range.. now it would be a definitive add.







I would have definately loved to have them bring back the original manix as it was, than change it into what they have.

Although I will still be buying one of the new ones:cool:
 
Only if it gets a flipper.

It's actually kind of a tough call though.
In theory, I want knives to have the edge as close to my hand as possible, giving me the most leverage and the maximum amount of cutting edge.
In practice, I want a knife to have a safety in case the lock fails. The choil on my Chinook 3 actually saved me from my own stupidity while I was abusing the knife, ever since then I have been pretty firm on making sure my hard use knives will hit my fingers with the tang and not the blade if the lock fails. A flipper is the best compromise between the two that I've seen (and it's handy for opening the knife). It's a shame that the design of the Ball Lock doesn't allow for flippers, most Compression lock knives on the other hand could probably take one without changing anything on the handle.
I think Spyderco should put a flipper on every knife that doesn't have a choil, but that's just me.

I just can't see the utility of a choil on a larger sized folder which has an otherwise well designed handle, with a deep enough finger groove just at the pivot to provide a good, secure grip.

A smaller knife, which has a shorter handle might benefit from a choil of this type, but on a larger knife which has a handle big enough to get a full hand on it, the choil does nothing but shorten the blade and reduce its utility.

Let's take a look at the Resilience, for example. This is a knife with no choil. It has an over all length of just a touch under 9.5", a blade (measured from the front of the scales) of about 4.25", and a handle length of about 5.25".

Now the new XL Manix, which has a choil; OAL of just under 9", blade length (measured from the scales) of 3 7/8ths inches, and a handle length of 5".

The Resilience's cutting edge runs all the way to the scales; the cutting edge of the XL loses about 7/16ths to the choil.

If the choil on the XL were gotten rid of in favor of running the edge all the way to the scales, as the Resilience's blade is designed, you would have a knife with a shorter OAL than the Resilience, but with a usable blade almost as long, making it a more compact knife with almost the same capabilities.

With the choil, you lose nearly a half an inch of usable edge while at the same time losing the ability to keep a full grip on the handle while bringing pressure onto the edge ahead of the pivot. And if the handle of the XL had the same design as the Resilience at the pivot, the blade would be proportionally even longer, giving the user a cutting edge as long as the Resilience with an OAL of the Manix. More compact, with the same amount of edge.

The only use of a choil is allow the user to choke up on the knife to get closer to the edge. Small knives have shorter, smaller handles, so being able to choke up makes some sense. On a knife as large as the XL which has a large, well designed handle, the choil only FORCES the user to choke up to get to the edge; it forces the user to use the choil simply because the choil exists in the first place.

Large knives have no need for a choil. Small knives well may benefit from them.

I have an XL Manix and like it; I would like it A WHOLE BUNCH MORE if it didn't have a choil! I use my knives hard. I would like to use the XL hard, but instead find the Resilience in my pocket instead because it doesn't have a choil.

The XL Manix has the better designed handle, better materials, grippier handle material with jimping, but because the choil gets in the way, I'm not carrying it.

Andy
 
The utility of a choil also depends to some extent on the type of lock the knife has. When I close a knife with a mid-lock and and choil (Like the original Manix) I depress the lock with my thumb, while keeping the rest of my hand positioned as it would be if the knife was open and locked. I then flick the knife forward, so that the blade starts to fall, and the choil lands on my index finger. Try that without a choil and you'll end up getting cut. On the other hand, that closing method doesn't really make much sense with caged ball bearing locks, compression locks, or liner locks.
 
I've been using my modded Manix xl for a week or so and like it more now than I did whenI got I it. I guess it's mine now that it bit me.

I Agree with the other posters about Why does it Need a choil. I'd never use a choil on a knife with a blade this long. I'd Much rather have the cutting edge the choil uses.

I never use choils.

I think it is a better slicer with the 3.5 vs 4.0 mm blade tho.
 
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The original Manix is an incredible knife. I suspect that sales were low because it's so big. Not only big, but wide. The Benchmade Rukus is also big, but it's not wide, making it easier to use your pocket with the knife in it.

But the Manix is a truly great knife. The new Manix 2 had way too much jimping for me and was too small. Plus, I don't like the lock. The original backlock is much more elegant. But even the original Manix had too much jimping. I modded mine by grinding off the jimping on the thumb ramp part of the blade. The original jimping was sharp, too sharp for such a large knife. It would scrap my hand when I used the pocket. And it is unnecessary because the ergos of the Manix are so good that jimping is not needed.

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It would be cool if someone who has the original Manix and this new XL could post some comparison pics.

I don't mind the jimping, they don't bother me, and I often carry larger knives in my back pocket anyway.

Andy
 
It would be cool if someone who has the original Manix and this new XL could post some comparison pics.

I don't mind the jimping, they don't bother me, and I often carry larger knives in my back pocket anyway.

Andy

I agree. Can someone post a comparison shot?
 
I have an old black big Manix 1, and IMO it is one of the best knife that Spyderco has ever made (and they made a ton of wonderful knives); I would love to see produced a big Manix 1 (black G10 with SS liners, same as the original except without the jimping) with the tri-ad-lock; a little collaboration beetween Spy and CS... IMO it would be "the folder".

I found the choil a must for front-lock knives, I always uses it for one hand closing.

P.S.
@michaelmcgo excellent "melting job" on the spine of that manix, really nice
 
Thanks! Is the blade on the XL a little longer than the original?

Andy

According to the catalog the XL blade is 3.86" vs 3.75" on the original C95. Handle lengths are identical.
Fractionally, 3 7/8" vs 3 3/4".

They've also shortened the choil so that edge length is just under 3 1/2" vs 3 1/4" on the original.
 
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