New Mule angle-Question for Mr. Glesser

SteelStickler said:
I'm really disappointed to have missed this. I think that these should be a 1 piece maximum order because vultures just buy them and resell them once they are sold out. It's like scalping tickets; nobody but the greedy $@&$ wins. Massive frowns.
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I'm sorry that you missed out. You get a thread from Kristi announcing the release two weeks before release and in those two weeks there are multiple threads from multiple separate forums from excited members talking about it. On release day, the popular Mules like the S110v, K390, and M4 are available for up to six hours after it comes out at 10am mountain time, most other releases last for weeks up to months. In this case, after the Spydero site said sold out... For several days after after that, people were able to call in SFO and either order or got placed on a waiting list and were able to get one or two AND in fact several days later, they reopened the website and was instock again for a few hours on that Saturday.

I wanted TWO... Just because you missed out doesn't mean you can assume that everyone who likes MULES AND S110V vultures, flippers or whatever. Sure there are those who simply want to get one or two to make a few bucks but like them, if you really wanted it, there was plenty of opportunity to get it. It's not a perfect system but believe me, if the limit was one, the flippers will easily find a way to get around that.
 
I'll let everyone know how the polishing turns out.

My S90V knives shine like liquid mercury. I see no reason to believe this one be be any less beautiful!:)
 
Ben Dover said:
I'll let everyone know how the polishing turns out.

My S90V knives shine like liquid mercury. I see no reason to believe this one be be any less beautiful!:)
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Are you planning any type of handle material for it?
 
I plan on keeping both of mine and making custom scales and sheaths for them. Maybe one will end up as a Christmas/BDay gift sometime this year. :)

I mentioned in another thread that my first set of S110v scales will be in Hawaiian Silky Oak with a 1/16" brown linen Micarta liner. The wood came from Mark at Burl Source - good looking stuff. I'm about halfway finished now and will post results when I get them finished up. I'm trying to take some photos for a WIP thread. We'll see how that goes...

The second set I'm still debating about. I've got some interesting timber squirreled back and will take a look to see what strikes my fancy. I might go for a laminated approach or possibly use multiple woods/spacers similar to a stick-tang block handle.

My youngest son is setting up to do the sheaths - not sure what he's got up his sleeve for this project. I'm sure he'll surprise me!

TedP
 
Stays Sharp said:
I'm sorry that you missed out. You get a thread from Kristi announcing the release two weeks before release and in those two weeks there are multiple threads from multiple separate forums from excited members talking about it. On release day, the popular Mules like the S110v, K390, and M4 are available for up to six hours after it comes out at 10am mountain time, most other releases last for weeks up to months. In this case, after the Spydero site said sold out... For several days after after that, people were able to call in SFO and either order or got placed on a waiting list and were able to get one or two AND in fact several days later, they reopened the website and was instock again for a few hours on that Saturday.

I wanted TWO... Just because you missed out doesn't mean you can assume that everyone who likes MULES AND S110V vultures, flippers or whatever. Sure there are those who simply want to get one or two to make a few bucks but like them, if you really wanted it, there was plenty of opportunity to get it. It's not a perfect system but believe me, if the limit was one, the flippers will easily find a way to get around that.
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Thank you, well said. :thumbup:
 
Some of us buy more than one so we have something to do down the road.
I don't buy all of them, just the steels I really like. Here are a few spares. Not to flip, but rather projects for another day.
The two new ones should be here today :). Here are a few without scales, the K390's didn't get into the pic.
Or ones with scales...... Am curious how this one in 110v will be to work with? Was thinking about re-shaping into more of a kitchen knife.
But might be a bear to re-shape.

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bravodelta said:
While I haven't taken out the micrometer yet, the S110v seems much thinner behind the edge than all of my other mules. Both of mine are very sharp with almost a "zero" edge with a tiny tiny bevel. No complaints as I am gonna take them down to 15 degrees on the wicked edge.
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On Spyderco's own forum someone posted this:

I measured the width behind the edge at 0.020" on my MT17 and 0.010" on my MT18.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Ben,

We normally use 30 degree total or 15 DPS. New maker for Mule Team wasn't aware of our tight requirement. Sorry. Future Mule Team pieces will use 15 DPS.

sal
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No big deal. 10 min on my EdgePro and it will be there. After all, Mule buyers are steel junkies. And sharpening junkies... :D

As Ben said, no complaints. If there was ever a community who should understand these issues, it should be the Mule folks.
 
PB Wilson said:
On Spyderco's own forum someone posted this:

I measured the width behind the edge at 0.020" on my MT17 and 0.010" on my MT18.
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Seems that the MT18 should be thinner behind the edge if it's sharpened at a wider angle (unless someone really hogged in to the blade). Sharpening to a narrower angle would take the edge up to a thicker part of the blade - if all else is equal.
 
AxisFan said:
Seems that the MT18 should be thinner behind the edge if it's sharpened at a wider angle (unless someone really hogged in to the blade). Sharpening to a narrower angle would take the edge up to a thicker part of the blade - if all else is equal.
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That was after sharpening both mules to 15 dps, but I can't speak for how anybody else's were ground. I happened to have both mules and a micrometer at hand when the question came up. Your experience may vary.
 
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SteelStickler said:
I'm really disappointed to have missed this. I think that these should be a 1 piece maximum order because vultures just buy them and resell them once they are sold out. It's like scalping tickets; nobody but the greedy $@&$ wins. Massive frowns.
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Waahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No need to make changes for everyone else due to your own incompetence, the exact date/time it was to be released was announced weeks in advance so you have no one to blame but yourself..
 
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The new maker has to be Queen Cutlery, they are the only ones that sharpen at 50 degrees.;)
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Ben,

We normally use 30 degree total or 15 DPS. New maker for Mule Team wasn't aware of our tight requirement. Sorry. Future Mule Team pieces will use 15 DPS.

sal
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presz said:
The new maker has to be Queen Cutlery, they are the only ones that sharpen at 50 degrees.;)
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I own a delightful little Queen "Large Stockman" in D-2:)

Unfortunately, I purchased it before becoming a devotee of the Edge-Pro.:(

I must say that re-beveling the three blades to 20* on Lansky Crock Sticks was not an enjoyable experience. :grumpy:

Worthwhile, though.:thumbup:
 
My two mules just came. The edges are both about 40 degrees inclusive. One is about 20/20 dps and the other is 18/22 dps. The edge shoulders are very thin -- 0.016 and 0.015 inches. It's this thin shoulder width that makes the bevel width so narrow. They should be easy to resharpen and reprofile at this geometry, even with the wear-resistant nature of the steel.

The mule program is an incredible gift to knife lovers. Thanks, Spyderco.
 
sodak said:
No big deal. 10 min on my EdgePro and it will be there. After all, Mule buyers are steel junkies. And sharpening junkies... :D

As Ben said, no complaints. If there was ever a community who should understand these issues, it should be the Mule folks.
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I have no experience with the EdgePro but I had to work pretty hard on my Wicked Edge to get my MT17 to 15° per side. Happy with what I got but had to work at it some. Started with 100 grit diamonds and worked up to fine ceramic.

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Can't believe my MT18 isn't chucked-up on the WE right now...
 
phillipsted said:
I plan on keeping both of mine and making custom scales and sheaths for them. Maybe one will end up as a Christmas/BDay gift sometime this year. :)

I mentioned in another thread that my first set of S110v scales will be in Hawaiian Silky Oak with a 1/16" brown linen Micarta liner. The wood came from Mark at Burl Source - good looking stuff. I'm about halfway finished now and will post results when I get them finished up. I'm trying to take some photos for a WIP thread. We'll see how that goes...

The second set I'm still debating about. I've got some interesting timber squirreled back and will take a look to see what strikes my fancy. I might go for a laminated approach or possibly use multiple woods/spacers similar to a stick-tang block handle.

My youngest son is setting up to do the sheaths - not sure what he's got up his sleeve for this project. I'm sure he'll surprise me!

TedP
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I picked up one of the latest mules as well that I intend to do the handle on. May I ask where you got the thin micarta liner material? I'd like to try that as well.
 
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