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Here is a better pic of a bronze kopesh (khopesh, khepesh - similar to Khukuris in this respect also) - scroll down:

http://elisabethmorrow.org/classroomnews/b6weapon.htm

I did searches through sites by collectors, historians, museum sites and all the great learned edged weapons gurus I could find on the web. Note that the author of this piece, Yi-Chung, is in grade 6b. When scholars wax heavily in text and conjecture, look to the kids for pics and facts (HEE :D)
 
There was some sword play with the Kopesh in the movie "The Mummy returns," part two "The Scorpion King." I think it was.
I don't know how real the choreography was but it was neat to watch anyway.
I imagine there was some of the same in "The Mummy" as well, but I haven't seen it yet.
Many of the Scorpion King's jackal troops were equipped with the Kopesh and judging from the scale those Kopesh were quite large, almost sword like.
Trying to make a model for a Kopesh would be a modeler's nightmare!!!!!!!:eek:
 
hmm, Walosi I think that's the kopesh pic I started with, just shrunken to fit...perhaps I should drop the kopesh part of the pic entirely?
 
Gentlemen,

Please note that there are two major theories on Kopesh or Kepesh (the more appropriate domestic term):

1) There are made of bronze

2) The cuttting edge is on the outside, unlike a Khukuri or Kopis.

3) Some researchers put forward that Kepesh was used as a mace with no sharp edges just meant for crushing!

I saw a beautiful reproduction by a mastersmith in Iran, I will post this someday here.

Regards

Manoucher
 
Ben -
Leave the kopesh - it could be "our grandpa". I was just looking for a pic, not picking :rolleyes:

Manoucher -
In one of the texts I came across (and paid little attention to, as I was looking for pics) there was an assertion as to the introduction of the kopesh into Egypt, by invaders, during the bronze age, and its' subsequent adoption by one of the Egyptian rulers (Kyesh?) for his military. I only scanned it, and can't find it now - so much for old memory.
 
yeah, I daw one of those at the Smithsonian, and yuo should seel how thick they are in cross-section. They weigh what a khuk would, just brought the spine-mass close to the blade.Definitely not a thrustinng weapon. Pure slasher.

Keith
 
Youu guys ever read JP Malory's "In Search of the Indo Europeans"?

Excellent stuff. Covers language, religion, culture, locations, etc.

Keith
 
Keith - Yes, I've read Mallory's book - nice introduction to the subject - I know quite a bit more about the linguistic angle than the archaeological one, so Mallory's book was good for filling me in on the latter.
 
yeah, I use it to cross compare cultures, like that of the historically elusive Scythians. I did see a book called "Scythian Gold" that has wonderful pics of goldwork - combs, torcs, jewellery, shield fittings and armor, gorytos (arrow quiver)...

Keith
 
Hmmm, (scratching chin).

I think that the relationship between the edge, balance, and the grip is the key. If you think of removal of a portion of the blade as the ultimate fuller, the kopesh/kepesh seems to have the same essence that an A.K. has--and expressed to a greater degree. Whether the spine or edge possesess a curve of lesser radius is immaterial.

Flip over the illustration and keep it, I say.

EDIT:

This problem screams to be analyzed by the Pendentive methodology!
 
Firkin, an astute observation and correct. That is why they are considered to be related. So we go to the Brone age for the origins of the khuk...

Keith
 
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