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New S35VN Small Sebenza Insingo: Now with a longer and wider blade!

atony said:
I talked with Heather about this (via email). I was told that there were no changes made to the shape of the blades, maybe just an odd ball?
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I gotta say, for a company that prides itself, and is known worldwide, for the tight manufacturing tolerances, one has to ask how a blade that obviously out of spec would have been produced, much less slip by Q/C...:confused:
 
I have 2 large sebenza 21's both made in September 2008 and there are slight differences in the blades grind ,length , ect... I think it's due to CRK being a small shop with hand made knives , every one will always be a bit unique .
 
I just received a Large Insingo 21 with a birth date of 7-13-2011. It's blade is more like my original Small Insingo than the new small pictured here.
 
I hope that was a mistake. I do not like the more pointy ( to me) and lengthened blade of the new one shown. I am probably in the minority.
 
atony said:
I talked with Heather about this (via email). I was told that there were no changes made to the shape of the blades, maybe just an odd ball?
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Does anyone else have a new Insingo that's wider and longer?
 
FWIW, here's a picture I saved from some forum of the initial run of Insingos (I'm not sure whose it is, sorry)

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I think my Large (DOB March 2011) is a little pointier at the tip than that one. I can't really tell if the amount of grind under the handle is the same because in that picture, it's not flat but pitched forward towards the blade (notice how thin the bevel on the handle is by the blade, showing that it's actually sitting on an angle).
 
It's unfortunate that we're not getting an answer to this perfectly legitimate question from the man himself.

I, for one, would like to know: If I buy a new Insingo, which design will I be getting?

Thank you.
 
The tight tolerance thing is just marketing.

If the tolerances were tight, why would every knife need to be adjusted individually?

If every knife was the same i.e. tight tolerances, then you would be able to swap blades and have no ill effects.
 
Mike V said:
The tight tolerance thing is just marketing.

If the tolerances were tight, why would every knife need to be adjusted individually?

If every knife was the same i.e. tight tolerances, then you would be able to swap blades and have no ill effects.
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Here we go.:eek:
 
Mike V said:
If every knife was the same i.e. tight tolerances, then you would be able to swap blades and have no ill effects.
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That is my logic as well, and I proved it was correct by swapping my plain small Insingo into small Micarta handle with no ill effects.
 
I don't have personal experience of this, because I only own one Sebenza.


I'm only going off what more experienced users constantly post on here and on other knife forums.

Also the factory says that all blades and handles need to be adjusted to suit each other by hand.
I asked, because I wanted a factory swap of a Insingo and a regular 21 and this is the reason they said they wouldn't do it.
Although maybe they are spinning a line because they just don't want to do it.
 
I purchased a small Sebenza Insingo from Knife Art a while back. Yesterday, I received a small Sebenza Insingo directly from CRK, which I gave to my dad yesterday!

Mine from knife art has S30V steel, the one directly from CRK has S35Vn Steel.

When I held them up together, I thought the blade shape, width, and length were identical. Of course, I didn't think to grab a picture of the two knives next to each other with their blades deployed. Next time I'm with my dad and we both have our small Insingos, I'll try to remember to grab a picture.

BTW, my dad's insingo had a birth date of 8/8/2011.
 
Mike V said:
The tight tolerance thing is just marketing.

If the tolerances were tight, why would every knife need to be adjusted individually?

If every knife was the same i.e. tight tolerances, then you would be able to swap blades and have no ill effects.
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Tight tolerance does not infer interchangeable parts. It means reduced clearances compared to what other manufacturers may use as their standard.

While these are indeed production knives and don't have the fit and finish of the best customs they are considerably better than most customs and any other production knives I know of.

I'm not sure what you mean by adjustments as they are not adjustable. Unless you are talking about fitting new parts such as blades and washers. I suppose there is a range each part is manufactured to so there is some variable possible. I think CRK wants to make sure every knife works they way they intend.

Quite a few people here have switched blades with no problems. Someone even switched a new Insingo blade into an older Regular. That would infer tolerances between knives may indeed be pretty darn tight.

Exactly how much vertical or horizontal blade play does your Sebenza have? None would be my guess. I have never seen one that had any.

I'm not trying to be rude nor do I think you are but maybe some cultural differences at play? Humans don't have tight tolerances at all :D
 
You are getting Quality Control and manufacturing tolerance confused.

I'm not saying that the knives aren't excellent or have any play or any manufacturing defect.
That is Quality Control at work.

I'm saying that if every part rolling off the production line isn't identical and completely interchangeable, then the manufacturing tolerances aren't tight.

Although in knife making what is considered tight?

Remember that the tolerance has to be half of the accuracy you are aiming for so that if two parts come together on opposite sides of the tolerance they don't create a problem.
 
johnhere said:
I purchased a small Sebenza Insingo from Knife Art a while back. Yesterday, I received a small Sebenza Insingo directly from CRK, which I gave to my dad yesterday!

Mine from knife art has S30V steel, the one directly from CRK has S35Vn Steel.

When I held them up together, I thought the blade shape, width, and length were identical. Of course, I didn't think to grab a picture of the two knives next to each other with their blades deployed. Next time I'm with my dad and we both have our small Insingos, I'll try to remember to grab a picture.

BTW, my dad's insingo had a birth date of 8/8/2011.
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Yes, photos would be appreciated when you can.
(And your dad is very lucky to get such a gift!)
 
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