New SAK with Spydie Hole!

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After someone had posted a link to these a week or so ago I decided that the time had come for me to get a new SAK. The only SAK I've ever owned was a penknife that I inherited from my grandfather when I was about 6 years old. It was my first knife.

Anyhow, this one looked like a good one and Anthony Cheeseboro and I both ordered one about the same time. It was not particularly expensive $56 US and that included shipping which was nearly as much as the knife!

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The knife is really very nice. It has all the tools that you see in the pic plus the usual toothpick and tweezers. The blade is shaving sharp and the saw blade is quite sharp as well. It has the strong spring action that everyone is familiar with in an SAK. The coolest feature is obviously the one hand opening capability and also the fact that the blade locks via a liner lock. The large screwdriver blade on the end opposite the blade also locks via the other end of the same locking liner as the blade. Lockup is a not very secure on mine as it tends to rock a bit and fails the infamous spinewhack test but I still consider it an improvement over the nonlocking SAK.

One thing I found a little odd though, is that the liner lock is really made for a left handed person, that is, it is configured backwards as is the screwdriver blade. An additional feature which is very interesting is that there is no detent holding the blade in since it is still a traditional slip joint style knife. It just happens to also have the liner split so that it becomes a linerlock.

Also, the screwdriver has a unsual linerlock feature that I have not seen before: the lock face actually extends around the bottom of the tang and forms an additional locking face. So the tang end of the tool has two locking faces instead of the usual one. I may try to build a regualr liner lock knife using this method since it seems to be really solid.

The handles are Zytel which I am not overly crazy about since they tend to be slightly slippery when your hands are dry but that is a small nit. The bigger and more serious nit concerned the blade opening. It was so slippery that I couldn't get the knife open with one hand. I solved the problem by grinding some traction grooves in the arch with a Dremel and cutoff wheel. What a difference!

All in all, I would say that this is a great knife and well worth the money. To my knowledge it is not yet available in the US. I ordered it from Switzerland and it arrived in a charming European style wrapping paper in about 8 days.
 
Cool little knife! There are several informative posts on other locations in the Forums on this guy....very neat!!


"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
Hey Peter....

A couple of questions for you...

First,,what is the model name ??

Secondly,, what about size ?
Can you compare it to the size of the RUK SAK ???

This looks Very interesting, and I knida like it...

OH.... BTW

Peter scribbles.......

"One thing I found a little odd though, is that the liner lock is really made for a left handed person, that is, it is configured backwards as is the screwdriver blade. "


Finally a knife company thinks of us Lefties...

Bummer for you Righties,,now ya know how we've been feeling all of our lives...:)


Thanks Peter,,gonna go look for one...

ttyle

Eric....
 
Hi I recently posted some information about US availability on this SAK. Its called the "Service Pocket Tool" Model number is 0.8463.M3 by Victorinox. It is available from Victorinox Stores Inc. 521 West Farms Mall, Farmington,Connecticut USA 06032. Phone-860-521-1806 Fax-860-521-5318. Mr Paul Elsener is the owner of the store, name strike a bell?? They also have a store in Stamford CT and Im told they plan to open one in NY soon. Price is 35 dollars. They dont have web ordering, so phone in or fax one in. Very nice gentleman Mr Elsener. I believe he is from Switzerland ;-)
 
Hi Eric,

I have looked at the Rucksack model but haven't handled it. To my recollection it is about the same size and a very similar style. But I could be wrong!:D
 
those look like the wimpiest serrations I have ever seen on a knife....

how do they work?

tom
 
The serrations are not unlike those on a bread knife. I've not actually cut anything with mine, so I'm sure how well it cuts, but I'd wager it'd be pretty easy to resharpen which is kind of neat.

Heres a close up of the blade (if it works):
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Hate to disappoint Nomark but, the edge bevel is a right hand chisel grind (a little awkward for either hand, I guess).
The blade performs pretty well in the limited cutting I've done with mine. In fact, it kind of startled me when it just popped right through on the cut I was making in some leather. Just wish the saw blade locked.
Regards, Greg
 
Does anyone own this model WITHOUT the saw? I am trying to find a name/model number for the version with no saw - I thought I saw a red version in a previous thread.
Thanks.
 
Yes, they are very easy to sharpen. I use a Spyderco Sharpmaker and I really appreciate them. They're not as aggresive as regular serrations, but they are still an improvement over plain edge.
 
Eric,
I know you must have the Rucksack (#0.8863) as you make those great sheaths for it, so you could measure it. I do not have mine at hand, but it weighs 3.7 ounces and according to a catalog page I saved is 111 mm which by my calculations would make it about 4.37 inches long . (I think I saw some list it as 110 mm, 4.33 inches).

If you look at the post by Ripper at the knifeforum thread on the same subject, he says, "To add: the oal is 7.75", the blade is 3.5" and is about 60/40 (serrations the larger number)." If the handle is that long, that would be a very big knife, so I assume until it is clarified that he is measuring with the blade open. That would, after subtracting the blade length, make the handle about 4.25 inches. Thus, the knife would be about the same length. Perhaps a current owner of the Service Pocket Tool (#0.8463.M3) can clarify the handle length and measure the width and height for us. If you wait until I get mine,:D which is on order, I'll measure it. You can also get an idea by looking at Ripper's informative pictures which show the knife in his hand, as a point of reference.

I hope this partially answers your question.

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With respect to the serrations, I think that if they are not so aggressive, they may be more general purpose, i.e. make a cleaner cut, as opposed to ripping, yet still aid in cutting with what is presumably a steel that is not too hard when considering edge holding. Further, continuing the assumption that the steel is not too hard, one will need to be able to easily sharpen the serrations. One could view these as in between aggressive Spyderco “inny”serrations and the “outy” serrations of Kit Carson, Buck Intrepid, and Mission Knives & Tools, Inc. Or one could summarize, as did GuyInBlack, like bread knife serrations ;)

I think I prefer the slide lock on the Rucksack, especially if I have used the corkscrew. Ahhh....the practicality of a Philips screw driver on the Service Pocket Tool versus the romance of the corkscrew on the Rucksack. Like Ron Hood said, the corkscrew, can be a survival feature at a party!!! :D (If paraphrasing is off, or individual is different...sorry...but not very :D. It was in a thread on Hoodlums, or perhaps the Wilderness forum, in which someone was inquiring as to the usefulness of the corkscrew.)

My best use for the corkscrew, alas no longer possible :( , was on a United 747 flight from Los Angeles to Chicago. They had just laid in innumerable bottles of wine for their test of a new wine and cheese tasting feature. Guess who was the only one with a corkscrew? :D It was great getting the charge waived, modest though it was. :D Thanks Sis for that Wenger SAK you gave me for my 21st birthday. It served me well on my trip to and from California!!!

By the way, these are some of the threads I have seen on the Victorinox Service Pocket Tool:

Most PC knife? "SAK meets Spyderco?"
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172564

Most PC one hand opening knife? "SAK meets Spyderco?"
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172526

New SAK with Spydie Hole!
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1423618#post1423618

One hand opening victorinox!
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172614

One Handed Swiss Army Knife
http://www.knifeforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=62&t=001801

One-handed SAK
http://pub1.ezboard.com/fhoodlumsbladeware.showMessage?topicID=1267.topic
 
Donald,
Thanks for the kind words about the photos. I measured the knife handle and found that my ruler had slipped down between the blades when I measured the blade length before. The blade is actually closer to 3.3" . Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
The handle tapers from .70" on the lanyard end to .68" on the shield end. The other measurements are:
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Hope this helps and I'll correct my other reply.
Regards, Greg
 
I ordered one from the US source that Mikeylikesit gave above. Called and they were very helpful, a bit surprised, as I was the second or third long distance order in the last day or two. I explained how I found out and they were pleased to know they might get more business from us here. Now I just have to wait for the Brown truck.
 
But still no definitive answer on whether or not this one comes in a plain-edge version? I don't like serrations.
 
Greg,
Great job, above and beyond the call of knifenutt duty!!! :D This information should please Eric.

After finishing measuring my Rucksack, I would say they are about the same size to the nearest tenth of an inch. On the length I did get 4.37 inches, but that would round up to 4.4". I don't get any difference in width from end to end, finding it to be .68 inches thick. Of course the area with the opening and resulting hump is different in height. I get about .94 inches, where in the same position because of the the hump, you get 1.36 inches.

This should be a fine knife. The hump might make the saw a little less comfortable to use, since I see both the blade and saw open from the same end, as they do on the Rucksack.

MNBlade, from what I understand this is it, as far as one hand opening models. You could email www.swiss-knife.com, they responded to my inquiry within a day, as to why the link had stopped working. Or you could call The Victorinox Stores, Inc. I generally would prefer a plain blade, but the serrations may prove useful. It is interesting that they are on the tip, like the Knives of Alaska fillet knife. They would prove useful in cutting vegetation, and I recall Jeff Randall finding that they had some positive benefits in making fuzz sticks, as they did not slide off and take the fuzz with them ;) .

SAK you may be thinking red because the link went to a www.swiss-knife.com page with a red background. Further, the picture did not show the knife with the saw open. I became more excited when Greg told me it did have a saw. Same model number as on the page so I guess that is it. You could not tell from the picture and the description did not mention it. Why would you want one without a saw? That defeats the purpose of the knife. I wouldn't want to pound on the blade, so if you want to cut a walking stick in a short period of time or prune a branch, you need the saw. Also useful in making a grove in a hearth for a bow & drill set for a friction fire; or trap triggers. A knife this size is more of an outdoor knife. Since it does not have a corkscrew, I wouln't call it a party knife ;) . As the saw is rather thin, it does not add too much weight or thickness to the knife. It could serve as an emergency cutting implement if you did manage to break all of the blade off. I could go on, but you probably get the idea that I am convinced that the saw makes the knife. Then there is that useful awl........ :D
 
Hey Guys..

Thanks for the Great info...

This knife is Definately on the To Get List!!

Looks as though it could become a very popular blade..
Good candidate for some Neck rigs..:)
ttyle

Eric...
 
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