New sharpener??

Ajack60 said:
KME offers more and for me is better. The wider stones really made a difference.
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Serious question :
While using my Edge Pro (not much experience with anything else but a flirt with the Aligner) the metal swarf track on the stones of my EP is just a very narrow foot print and it is pretty much always in the center of the stone.

and . . . narrower stones work better for recurves . . .

What can a short fat stone do for me ?
 
Wowbagger said:
Serious question :
While using my Edge Pro (not much experience with anything else but a flirt with the Aligner) the metal swarf track on the stones of my EP is just a very narrow foot print and it is pretty much always in the center of the stone.

and . . . narrower stones work better for recurves . . .

What can a short fat stone do for me ?
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The biggest advantage for me is when getting to the tip of the blade, having a wider stone prevents me from going too far resulting in the stone slipping off the blade. That’s the biggest reason I switched from a Lansky to a KME.
 
Monofletch said:
Ajack60 Ajack60 -
My Sharpmaker needs replaced and I am not the best at free hand ....yet. I will not put any of my higher value knives on the bench stone just yet. I can get them sharp, but mistakes are easier to make and I don’t want a bunch of scratches and mishaps on my Hoback.
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Makes perfect sense to get a new system since the one you have is wore out. The WE is a good system. You can add to it as you see fit without having to spend a ton of money up front. I’d definitely recommend getting an angle gauge to go with it. It helps tremendously finding the factory edges.
 
Wowbagger Wowbagger if your looking at getting a clamp based system that can do really low angle's look at the TSProf and get the double and single fillet clamp's and reinforced spring's.

I'm on a few facebook groups and a guy messaged me because he knows I have every clamp that TSProf makes and wanted to know what the lowest angles you can get on a TSProf system,he only had the standard clamp's and didn't want to buy fillet clamp's if they wouldn't work for him.

These are the angle's I got using an aluminum edge pro blank put the clamp's.

I got 9 degree's using one double clamp with a half inch of the blank sticking out and I got 7.9 with 3/4 sticking out.
With the single fillet clamp I got 7.9 degree's with half a inch sticking out and 7.7 with 3/4 sticking out.

I used a Venev OCB stone witch are thinner and the thinner the stone the more you'll struggle with getting lower angle's,at those angle's posted for all the clamp's there was about 1/2 to 3/4 of a millimeter of clearance.

I would like to see all of the company's that make guided system's come up with a standard way of testing the lowest angle's of the sharpener's,for example using the 1/2 and 3/4 measurement of the the blade sticking out and using a 6mm thick stone,I not going to name one sharpener that I know of that claims to get really low angle's without hitting their clamp's but that's also base on you sharpening a chef knife.
 
Interesting, I wonder how it compensates for different stone thicknesses?
 
The Blitz is a good looking system but the thing to keep in mind about the Blitz from what I have heard is that they are not going to make a lot of different clamp's for it.

You can sharpen kitchen knife's with it but it is better suited for pocket knifes,I'd rather keep using my K03 because they have a much better clamp selection and there hasn't been anything that I haven't been able to sharpen with it.

yannada said:
The new tsprof BLITZ version looks even better.
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Diemaker said:
Interesting, I wonder how it compensates for different stone thicknesses?
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Maybe here
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I will put some Blitz Kits in my next order with TSProf. I will let you know about availability. I will also get tech specs. As Paul told me, this unit is the little brother to the TSProf K03. As such, it will cost less but have fewer features and less flexibility. Keep an eye on the "Kits" page of www.statesllc.com

George
 
Ajack60 said:
The biggest advantage for me is when getting to the tip of the blade, having a wider stone prevents me from going too far resulting in the stone slipping off the blade. That’s the biggest reason I switched from a Lansky to a KME.
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I see.
Cool !
Thanks.
 
wade7575 said:
Wowbagger Wowbagger if your looking at getting a clamp based system that can do really low angle's look at the TSProf and get the double and single fillet clamp's and reinforced spring's.
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I got 9 degree's using one double clamp with a half inch of the blank sticking out and I got 7.9 with 3/4 sticking out.
With the single fillet clamp I got 7.9 degree's with half a inch sticking out and 7.7 with 3/4 sticking out.
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Now you're talking.
That'll work !
Thanks.
 
wade7575 said:
Wowbagger Wowbagger if your looking at getting a clamp based system that can do really low angle's look at the TSProf and get the double and single fillet clamp's and reinforced spring's.

I'm on a few facebook groups and a guy messaged me because he knows I have every clamp that TSProf makes and wanted to know what the lowest angles you can get on a TSProf system,he only had the standard clamp's and didn't want to buy fillet clamp's if they wouldn't work for him.

These are the angle's I got using an aluminum edge pro blank put the clamp's.

I got 9 degree's using one double clamp with a half inch of the blank sticking out and I got 7.9 with 3/4 sticking out.
With the single fillet clamp I got 7.9 degree's with half a inch sticking out and 7.7 with 3/4 sticking out.

I used a Venev OCB stone witch are thinner and the thinner the stone the more you'll struggle with getting lower angle's,at those angle's posted for all the clamp's there was about 1/2 to 3/4 of a millimeter of clearance.

I would like to see all of the company's that make guided system's come up with a standard way of testing the lowest angle's of the sharpener's,for example using the 1/2 and 3/4 measurement of the the blade sticking out and using a 6mm thick stone,I not going to name one sharpener that I know of that claims to get really low angle's without hitting their clamp's but that's also base on you sharpening a chef knife.
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I was able to get to almost 6 degrees on my K02 with a wide chef knife. It took some doing, but it's possible.
 
wade7575 said:
Get a TSProf K03 before the wicked edge,the wicked edge has been know to have problems with the jaws not holding knifes very well and also when you want to buy new stones for it you have to buy 2 stones at a time.

I had the KME but the stone selection really sucks when compared to edge pro format stones and I never cared for the 3 inch stones.

The TSProf however has a great selection of clamps and accessories to choose from and thing is built like a tank and is very accurate if you take the time to set it up right,everything about the TSProf operate's butter smooth as well,I have had many different guided system's over the years and TSProf is by far the best in my opnion.
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I agree. I had a WE, and EP, and a KME before I got my K02. I sold the WE and the EP, only kept the KME because it's really portable. I did make an adapter to use my WE stones on the TSProf, since I had several. One think I love about the TSProf is I can do any kitchen knife on it without having to reclamp it.

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I was just trying show what the lowest angle you can get is with a narrow knife because that's always the problem most times.
I know this will never happen but I'd like to see the people that make the sharpeners and byt that I mean all of them use a standard way of testing their sharpeners for the lowest possible angle you can sharpen at.

I would like to see them use a 1/8th thick peace of metal and then take a measurement with 1/2 sticking out then 3/4 of an inch sticking out of the clamps and then post the measurement's on their website.
There is one brand and I think they claim 10 or 12 degree's theirs can sharpen at but that's with a chef knife and they only tell you that if you email them and ask them,I guess they'd rather get your money first before being 100% honest with the customer rather then trying to mislead a person.

Lone_Wolfe said:
I was able to get to almost 6 degrees on my K02 with a wide chef knife. It took some doing, but it's possible.
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wade7575 said:
I was just trying show what the lowest angle you can get is with a narrow knife because that's always the problem most times.
I know this will never happen but I'd like to see the people that make the sharpeners and byt that I mean all of them use a standard way of testing their sharpeners for the lowest possible angle you can sharpen at.

I would like to see them use a 1/8th thick peace of metal and then take a measurement with 1/2 sticking out then 3/4 of an inch sticking out of the clamps and then post the measurement's on their website.
There is one brand and I think they claim 10 or 12 degree's theirs can sharpen at but that's with a chef knife and they only tell you that if you email them and ask them,I guess they'd rather get your money first before being 100% honest with the customer rather then trying to mislead a person.
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I like the idea of a standard way of testing. There would also need to be a standard stone thickness, I have one so thick I could have gone even lower. Of course that would do no good when it was time to change grits.
 
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