New Sharpmaker Rod: something between current diamond/CBN and medium ceramic

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Per some side discussion in an unrelated thread a few of us have been discussing a new SM rod that grit wise would fall in between the diamond/CBN (to my recollection, they are about the same) and the mediums that come with the kit. Lance had mentioned he chatted with Sal and Sal seemed interested. So as it goes let's gage some interests.

A finer diamond was brought up and I'm also curious about a more coarse ceramic. I prefer the feel of the ceramic stones plus they come in cheaper it seems. I really like the finish that the mediums give you, but think the gap between the diamond and the mediums could be bridged. Also, if you would prefer a rougher finish than the mediums, but more honed than the diamond, you are out of luck and that is a good range being missed out on. I for one think if an ultra fine can be justified, then this certainly can. I don't know approximate grit levels, but am just going off of feel as I'm using the stones and time spent on the mediums after using the diamond.
 
yes I too would like a coarse ceramic option, it would last longer then the diamonds and perhaps they would be great at simply retouching the bevel for a thorough maintenance. The diamonds ones are just excellent as they are I think, with just these, I manage to get a shaving sharp edge on.
 
I would love a coarser ceramic option. The diamonds are good for what they are but too much money and they just don't fit for a step above the medium ceramics.


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Every time I use my Sharpmaker I find myself wishing there was something in between the diamonds and the medium ceramic! Not sure which I would prefer (medium diamond or coarse ceramic), but either would be better than nothing!
 
I'd really like to have the rods you're talking about. Such big gap between the diamond and the brown medium. I used all the rods yesterday...
diamond to extra fine.
 
I've never given this much thought , but it does seem that the Sharpmakers rod options have come to a developmental standstill , while everything else in Spydercos product list have raced ahead .

Ken
 
absolutely in! I would prefer diamonds...anything between 600 and 1000 would be great. I think you start to run into some stability issues when you start getting into coarser ceramics. Between that and all the new "super steels" we have at our disposal, I think a set of finer diamond rods would be the way to go. Right now I use a set of DMT 1200 grit diafolds that I rubber band to my SM rods. They leave an extremely sharp edge that still has a good bit more bite than the medium ceramic rods.
 
That's a really good idea. Going to give it a try.



it works, but the paddles are a bit short and the setup is a bit rickety. Works fine as long as you go slow and careful and provides some great "in between" edge finishes. I have two of the Fine/EF paddles so its like having 600 and 1200 diamond rods. I would still buy regular rods in a heartbeat if they made em though.
 
Maybe we can get Sal to give some thoughts, hints, or challenges on the idea...
 
I've also thought that the gap between diamond and medium stone is too significant. I'd like to see something that sat right in the middle. I prefer ceramic over diamond, but I'd take either one as long as it was in between the grits of diamond and medium.
 
Giving this thread a bump just because I want this to happen. ;)

When I was at the Blade show and mentioned the idea to Sal, he asked me what grit I would like and I kind of stuttered a little bit. Having given it some thought, I think one new grit would be better than trying to fill the gap with multiple rods. If there was only going to be one new grit I would choose 800. The existing rods are 350-400ish grit and the medium ceramics are similar to about 1200 diamonds (actually a bit higher IMO). I think an 800 grit diamond rod would fit nicely in the middle and would provide an excellent working edge for those of us who like a coarser finish. 800 grit will still take an edge to a very high level of sharpness while leaving tons of bite.
 
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