if y'all want nice little tobacco tins for yer survival kits, check out the West German guncleaning tins. In Cheaper-than-Dirt and a couple other of those type catalogs, you'll find sets of three cleaning kits for the G-3 type weapons class. Besides the basic pullchain, oiler and brushes, they are packed in old flip-top tobacco tins which fit perfectly in the pouch you find on and Eagle Ka-Bar type sheath. I have a sparker, tinder and charcloth in mine and it's right there on my knife... or in a pocket. I got three of these sets for $8 at a gunshow and the tins are great!