New to flippers, bought a few and made some observations, looking for suggestions

Wilsonhome

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I don't start threads often and i know that "suggestion" threads abound, so my apologies if you have seen something like this before. I have mostly been a "traditionals" guy when it comes to pocket knives and still carry one every day. However, over the last few months i spent some time looking at some new modern knives. After a little research i decided to just buy a few that were similar in size and design, and in a general price zone, and see what i liked.

One thing i would like to say is that this thread is not meant to spark any kind of argument amongst people who love certain brands. I simply bought several knives to see what i personally might like and am only discussing knives that i actually did like. Anything that i bought and didn't personally care for, i have just left out of the discussion. All of these are great and well respected companies.

My purpose is just to ask, based on what i liked about the knives i have bought so far, if anyone has a suggestion that i might have overlooked (super self-centered of me, i know).

I bought the following and they arrived in this order:

ZT 900 Les George
Emerson CQC7
Benchmade 928 Osborne Proxy
Spyderco Domino



At this point i have carried them all and used them for day to day tasks, but none have been used extensively. Long term edge holding, durability, etc will have to be assessed later and this is just a set of first impressions. My quickly summarized first impressions are as follows.

All the knives below seem to be very well built.

The ZT 900 Les George arrived first and is probably closest to the size i would like in a modern carry knife. It is incredibly smooth to open with the flipper but that is really the the only opening option. You can open it two handed, but it isn't particularly easy. I also think i made a mistake on this knife by ordering titanium handles as they seem too slick to me, although they help make the knife quite beautiful.

Next came the Emerson and i liked it a lot. Love the grippy handles and the three opening mechanisms. Easily opened with the wave, thumb disk and flipper. Very smooth. Can also be easily opened with two hands. Don't love the chisel grind and i have never had one before, but it certainly cuts well and i am sure i will get used to it. Did i mention that i really like the wave opener?

Following that the Benchmade arrived. Open and closed i really, really like this knife, although it is the largest of the group i ordered and maybe a little too large for me to carry regularly in slacks. The handle is very comfortable although not as grippy as the Emerson or the Spyderco. The blade can be opened by the flipper or two handed. Unfortunately, the downside of this knife is that it doesn't open as smoothly as the others with the flipper and the thumb stud is kind of useless for opening the blade. The flipper action was very stiff out of the box. I have worked with it a good bit since and it is a lot better, but still not as smooth as the Emerson, ZT, or Spyderco. I do think it may continue getting better over time.

The Spyderco arrived last. It opens very smoothly with the flipper, thumb hole, or with two hands. The handle is very comfortable to me and grippy enough. It is a super slicer and i have carried this one more than the others. I wish it also had a wave, but i won't improvise one. Probably my favorite of the group.

All of the knives seemed to lock up well enough, although there were different mechanisms used and i am still trying to understand the pros & cons.

In final analysis, I think the Benchmade will loosen up even more over time and i am really going to like it, but the Emerson and Spyderco may get the most use (although, my wife may take over the Emerson as she keeps using it).

I also plan to order a different ZT (recommendations welcome), since i think i may not have chosen the best one to compare with the other knives. I think i will avoid aluminum or titanium knives going forward.

I know there are a ton of people on the forum with extensive experience with modern flippers. What should i try next (both in the $200 price range and not) that is about the size of the ZT, reasonably grippy, has more than one opening mechanism and opens smoothly, can be easily opened with two hands, is reliable, etc? Thanks in advance for the help.

Hope this wasn't tldr.
 
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You've got good taste, all 4 of those are really nice knives. the only one I have hands on experience with is the spyderco and its definitely one of my favorite flippers.

The wave opening is definitely awesome. Doesn't have to be a super tactical highspeedlowdrag thing, the wave is just a fun, quasi-automatic opening system. Its still weird to me to see a flipper on an Emerson though :D

As for recommendations on next purchase, besides the obvious big dogs, ZT, BM, Spyderco...

Check out Kizer. they've got a huge selection, and they're great knives, with superb materials at very competitive prices. I was hesitant about dropping a bill, give or take, on a Chinese knife I will admit. But goodness, all of them I've owned freaking blew me out of the water. Seriously give em a chance, I think you'll be stoked.
 
For a great "affordable" flipper look at Reate or Guardian Tactical. I've had a few from Reate and they all had good flipping action. I own a Helix Nano from Guardian and it is another well-designed flipper. If you can find a Boiling from Carson Tech Lab, they are also a great option.

For pricier options, I've heard Shirogorovs are pretty good, and from experience I can tell you that something from André Thorburn will blow your mind.

I have not been impressed by ZT's flipper offerings and haven't handled Spydercos or BMs. I've also heard that the Emerson isn't a great example of a flipper.
 
Well, you already seem to like the Domino quite a bit, so you could try little brother, the Dice.

Didn’t know there was a little brother. Will definitely put that on the list. Thanks IM.

Check out Kizer. they've got a huge selection, and they're great knives, with superb materials at very competitive prices. I was hesitant about dropping a bill, give or take, on a Chinese knife I will admit. But goodness, all of them I've owned freaking blew me out of the water. Seriously give em a chance, I think you'll be stoked.

I will take a look at Kizer. Thanks Stony.

For pricier options, I've heard Shirogorovs are pretty good, and from experience I can tell you that something from André Thorburn will blow your mind.
I have not been impressed by ZT's flipper offerings and haven't handled Spydercos or BMs. I've also heard that the Emerson isn't a great example of a flipper.

Thanks BB. I will take a look at Shirogorovs & André Thorburn as well as the Guardian and Reate.
 
If you want a really beefy, bearing flipper that flies out extremely fast liner lock, you might try the ZT 0909. I just got this one and it was a steal at 155 shipped, nib. Very sharp even edge. This thing is super solid and will pop hair off all the way to the tip. Mine weighs just under 7 oz. , but feels lighter than that, flat to carry because it's not thick in the handle at all. The liners are solid and thick. I really like it and for the price it's a deal.
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I got the Proxy in today, too and while I like it a lot, it doesn't flip nearly as fast as the ZT. Both are nice with zero flaws, but I favor the ZT.

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Nice, very informative comparison, Wilsonhome.

Out of similar curiosity, I recently purchased a few budget flippers. I should post my thoughts, modeled after yours.

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You may also want to take a look at what Brous has to offer. I just received a Silent Soldier and it is amazing. Small enough to fit nicely in the pocket, and it flips out extremely fast. It also has a finger hole that you can use for extra grip or more fine control.
 
If you want a really beefy, bearing flipper that flies out extremely fast liner lock, you might try the ZT 0909. I just got this one and it was a steal at 155 shipped, nib. Very sharp even edge. This thing is super solid and will pop hair off all the way to the tip. Mine weighs just under 7 oz. , but feels lighter than that, flat to carry because it's not thick in the handle at all. The liners are solid and thick. I really like it and for the price it's a deal.

Thanks Jill. I will definitely take a look at the 909.
 
Zt 0770 carries really well. Its slim, has a large blade, comfortable, and the aluminum finish isnt slick. Even though i love the company, there aren't a lot of ZT I'd use as an EDC simply because theyre so heavy and/or too large to be clipped on my front pocket and leave room to still get my phone or wallet past them.

However, i love my 0770 at 3.75 ounces (3.0oz for CF version). Another one i like a lot is the 0452. Its a little larger, but still slim enough that i would carry it, beautiful knife.
Its little brother, the 0450 looks nice but I would not get the 450 simply because the frame lock should be a liner lock. The size of the 450 doesnt allow enough room to hold onto the knife firmly and still flip it open. If your fingers even rest on the frame lock, i wont open. Which is why the 0452 would be my choice, its big enough to use comfortably.
 
That ZT 0770CF at 3.0 ounces in carbon fiber is exceptionally attractive! Light enough for EDC yet sporting a 3.25" blade with 4.25" handle, which looks comfortable. Assisted too!

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If you like the size of the ZT 0900 I suggest one of the ZT 0450 in either all titanium or CF on presentation side. They're very light and slim. They run from $160 to $240. The high end has CF and ZDP-189 steel. Very sweet flipper action.

Other nice small flippers are the Kizer Gemini and Ursa Minor.
 
I don't have a large knife budget, but I like nice things. I like ZT flippers. I have had a few. I also, really like the Reate knives that I have handled, they have wonderful action, fit and finish. I think my next knife will probably be a Reate or, if I am lucky, I will get a Hinderer. The knife that I will suggest to you is the Spyderco Southard. I bought one, at the time it was the most money that I ever spent on a knife. I liked it, not loved, and my reasons for that were completely cosmetic. The knife was flawless, flipped liked crazy, and was smooth as silk. I just didn't like the looks of it. If you like the looks, I don't think you can do any better. It is a wonderful blade in a small, light package.I couldn't get over the appearance, but as far as everything else the knife is incredible.
 
Thanks to everyone for the recommendations. I'm going to spend some time today researching all of them. Hope you are all having a great weekend!
 
Viper Ten is a flipper that's been findIng it's way into my pocket more often then not recently.

Great size for an edc, not too big, not too small... Flips so well they didn't even include an alternative to open via your thumb. And it's really great priced.
Best (new) price I found online was a forum supporter: collectorknives.net
Available in red, green, black, silver-twill, or cf.

I really wanted a red handled knife, it caught my attention, and I'm seriously considering a green and cf model now I like it so much.



 
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That viper 10 looks cool, I've never seen it before

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I have not been impressed by ZT's flipper offerings and haven't handled Spydercos or BMs. I've also heard that the Emerson isn't a great example of a flipper.

What issues have you had? All of the ZT flippers (that aren't assisted) that I've tried flip well, lock up solid, and close well, center up great, and have decent materials. Looks I can see but has there been a functional issue you've found with ZT?
 
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