New to knife making

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Evening sirs and madam's, I am new to knife making although I have made one out of a rebar piece about 10 years ago. I am starting a new hobby of knife making and need some advice.

I would like to make a laminate blade. I got the idea of using the metal straps they use to secure lumber at lumber stores. I am unaware of what type of metal they use for these straps, or if it would even work for making/forming a knife blade. Anyways I figured I would layer about 3 or 4 pieces, fold it over like a n, heat it to cherry, then hammer them together and continue this. Will this work? I am a newb to this as I don't know the physics for lack of a better term of knife making, or even proper metals to use, but any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
 
If you're not familiar with what kind of metal it is, how will you know what the proper way to heat treat it is? :) All metals have different temperature ranges and times to soak at that range in order to achieve proper hardness. Then there is tempering to consider as well. There is no satisfaction in making a knife only to find out that the material you used will not hold any type of edge. What I'd suggest it start with a known steel, whether you go the forging route or stock removal from there is up to you. If you're planning on forging you'll need a forge that will get up to the temps you need to heat the steel enough to start banging on it. After you get the blade ready for heat treat then you can decide whether or not you think it's something you can properly do on your own. If not there are several places you can send it out to and have them do it. The best thing you can do it full out your profile and with a little luck you might find someone who's nearby who would be willing to help you out in person. If you're looking for a carbon steel to work with forging 1084 is a great steel to start out with and can be heat treated fairly easily on your own. If you choose a stainless chances are you're going to have to send it out.
 
if your going to go to the effort of trying to laminate a blade your gonna want to know what steels your dealing with. personally I would try something a little less ambitious for my first time. But to each his own
 
You are talking about a San-mai. First of all cherry red isn't going to weld it.
I don't want to seem rude but, How many knives have you made?
Grasshopper: One must learn to walk before he can run. I highly recomend reading all the sticky"s. Then read all you can find on the subject of Knife-making. Then read all you can about the forged blade. Then make a few knives (about 50) from simple steels ie 1080/1075
Then go for it.
 
its really just for fun right now. I just want to see if it works. Where is a good place to buy/scavange steel for making a knife? Also wheres's a good place to get an anvil as well?
 
its really just for fun right now. I just want to see if it works. Where is a good place to buy/scavange steel for making a knife? Also wheres's a good place to get an anvil as well?

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8189975&postcount=3

Read these books
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603203

I like

Step by Step Knifemaking - David Boye

IF you are interested in forging, the Jim Hir.....s books are good.
50dollar knife shop can help you with improvised tools, but ignore most of the rest.

Watch these videos
http://smartflix.com/store/category/9/Knifemaking

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/499...femaking_Basics_-_Make_a_Mora_Bushcraft_Knife

Buy steel here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=699736

If you want to laminate multiple layers of pallet strapping, you could do that, but if all the layers are the same, you wont see it in your final product.
Alternate layers of 2 different steels like 1084 and 15n20
I say though, you have alot of learning to do before you get that far, start with 1084
 
He is not talking about san-mai (literally - three layers).
He is talking about folded steel. The process is what makes Japanese blades have their hada. The process is the same as making damascus, but uses only one steel type.

ccross
Read up on making damascus and you will understand that this is quite a bit more complicated than your plan.

I would suggest a plain steel blade for your first knife.

There are a lot of good makers in GA. Perhaps one would offer you an invite to visit and show you some starter skills. There are also some good hammer-in events down that way....as well as the Blade Show in Atlanta.
 
its really just for fun right now. I just want to see if it works. Where is a good place to buy/scavange steel for making a knife? Also wheres's a good place to get an anvil as well?


There is a sticky at the top of this forum that lists various suppliers for basically just about everything to make a knife. From steel to handle material and everything in between. Determine what steel you want to use and go from there. Use a known steel, it's a lot of work to make a knife. Why would you want to spend hours upon hours making one only to realize the steel you chose is essentially useless for an effective knife.
 
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