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JasonG

JasonG

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Hi Guys,

My long dream has finally come true, to own a R.Hinderer! I got a new XM-18 3.5" none flipper yesterday!

Pardon? What do I think of it?

ITS AWESOME..... I love it! feels perfect in the hand, Its SOLID, and at the same time has a serious high quailty feel about its robustness.

I purchased it from another forum memeber "knife36". Thanks to him.

Im very proud to own this knife, and have one of these knifes in my collection. I feel like I should brag alot more, but time is short! Will give you some more feedback once ive used it a bit!

Thanks
Chow





 
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Welcome! Great Pics, really shows off (my Favorite) blade grind, all the facets/angles. Enjoy!
 
Could any of you tell me wether or not this is a CF scale or G-10. Ive been told CF by the buyers, but would like to make sure? It does seem to be lighter or "greyer" in color next to the other xm-18's that were g-10....

This grind is called a spanto correct? does this name mean anything?

Can you tell me anything else about the knife? I'm told its a gen 3? Says CTS-XHP on the blade. How is this steel? CTS-204p on my southard is amazing stuff, would it be similar? I presume its in the carpenters steel class because of its "CTS" description, right or wrong?

What are these knifes typically worth? (do the rules allow this question, if not, I will edit is asap)
 
JasonG said:
Could any of you tell me wether or not this is a CF scale or G-10. Ive been told CF by the buyers, but would like to make sure? It does seem to be lighter or "greyer" in color next to the other xm-18's that were g-10....
Looks to be a G10 scale

This grind is called a spanto correct? does this name mean anything?
Ricks creation, a combination of Tanto and Spearpoint ala Spanto. Known for unique look and robust performance.

Can you tell me anything else about the knife? I'm told its a gen 3? Says CTS-XHP on the blade. How is this steel? CTS-204p on my southard is amazing stuff, would it be similar? I presume its in the carpenters steel class because of its "CTS" description, right or wrong?
Gen 3 XM18 Spanto Non-Flipper. The CTS-XHP is one of my favorite "super-steels" great edge retention while fairly easy to maintain an edge with regular maintenance.
What are these knifes typically worth? (do the rules allow this question, if not, I will edit is asap)
Typically we avoid discussing $$. It is invaluable in the hands of someone who appreciates a quality tool that will last a lifetime and be there when you need it.

FYI-
Carpenter CTS XHP Alloy

(Nominal Analysis)
1.60 C, 0.50 Mn, 0.40 Si, 16.00 Cr, 0.35 Ni, 0.80 Mo, 0.45 V, Bal. Fe

Air hardening, high carbon, high chromium, corrosion resistant alloy which can be described as either a high hardness Type 440C stainless steel or a corrosion resistant D2 tool steel. Possesses corrosion resistance equivalent to Type 440C stainless but can attain a maximum hardness of 64 HRC, approaching that of D2 tool steel. Now available in strip product form.

This proprietary alloy is in the Carpenter CTS™ family of alloys that offer superior edge retention and surface finish, an ability to be machined to a fine edge, and consistent heat-treatability from lot to lot. Consider CTS alloys for many blade applications including commercial food processing, paper processing, textile, packaging, recycling/refuse, kitchen knives, hand tools, scissors/shears, shaving razors, sport/hunting knives, ice skates, military/defense, law enforcement, salon blades and various surgical/medical applications
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Thank you for the info!
How would I be able to figure out what the handle is made of? If i look closely on the side of the scale, I see the cross section weave found in CF. i.e. layers of CF and Resin. Does G-10 have the same thick weave structure? (I useto work with Carbon Fiber alot, but this is difficult to tell)
 
Odd. The scale looked really "tame" in the bigger pic. Closeup it shows the more aggressive Textured CF look.
 
Yeah, that pic put me over the edge. Just ordered one :D Hoping mine looks as good as your. Awesome example of the textured CF.
 
Hi rubiconSS, I was reading over your steel description again, and just wanted to ask something, when is something considered a "supersteel"? I know there is nothing that defines it properly, as one oak will consider one thing brilliant compared to another guy, but where does one come to the conclusion something is a super steel? And what makes is more special and not used by the rest of the company's? Costs? Availability? The treatments?

And also sorry for offending in questioning the value on the knife, I do not consider the high value a problem as I understand exactly what I'm paying for in this product. Regardless of what someone tells me, it will be something to live in my collection for along as I live :)
 
The actual metalurgy is from common info source(s). My use of the term "Super Steel" is more of Hobby term if you will. There are steels commonly referred to as such, my take as to why is as follows.
They are steels that have managed to encompass ALL that the high end knife maker or collector seeks; Corrosion resistance, edge retention, over all toughness (resists edge chipping, rolling) , Wear resistance, etc.
Cost of such a material (R&D, Heat treat, Working effort) certainly all are factors.
As for offense, none taken. We help each other and sometimes it works out that we end up with a new "regular" member so the effort is more than worth it.
Again, the above is my opinion. Others may have a differing one.:)
 
Okay, but if it's so good in that particular era, why is it not used more frequent? For example, a military will be s30v, and the special sprint model will be S90v. What are the "obvious" factors determining this, cost and availability? Sorry for sounding so naive... just asking incase there is other info I'm missing out on. Always willing to listen. And anyone else can also pipe up with some metal science here. .. Haha. Or opinions
 
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