New Umnum today...very tight...

Gotsouthern

Gotsouthern

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Picked up my new Umnum from my dealers place today. Very nice knife, by far my nicest folder. Bigger than I thought it would be but I like it. Handle feels wonderful, has a great balance despite the size. The only downside is I had to go on and order the takedown kit cause it came from the factory so tight I cannot open it without two hands. Hopefully just gonna loosen the side nuts and relieve some of the tension. By and large I'm very pleased so far, wanted to get the takedown tools anyhow. I'll update when the kit gets here.
 
I should have my Um coming in tomorrow. I hope it doesn't have that-- or any-- problem.

That's BS in my opinion. You spend $400 for a knife it shouldn't be that difficult to open.
 
Gotsouthern, congrats on acquiring you Umnumzaan -- impressive piece of equipment. The pivot tightness is unusual. My experience is that the Umnumzaan is very smooth out of the box. I would encourage you to give CRK a call, explain your observations, and get their thoughts.
 
I did call CRK, right from my dealers. They said it was unusual, and suggested I get the take down kit to remedy the problem. $9 later it was on the way. I have been opening and closing it, and it has loosened a good bit, but still too stiff for my taste. At this point I can open it by the thumb stud, albeit a bit belabored. I'll mess with it some more.

Thanks for the compliments, its my first high dollar folder, other than the stiffness its a bad ass hunk of exotic metals. Very aggressive blade profile in person, more so than pics let on if you ask me. That and the sob is BIG lol. Anyhow, its a nice one.

Anybody got a line on what CRK uses for sharpening? This bastard child is stupid sharp!!
 
When I got my Umnum. the guy had 3 spear points and 2 tantos in the shop. There was
really nothing between any of them as far as action went, they were all nice a smooth.

Any hoo, congrats on the new knife even if it is a bit stiff just now :):thumbup:
 
I'll go out on on a limb here and say that if it's really that hard to open where it requires two hands, the suggested remedy shouldn't be that YOU have to pay for a takedown kit so YOU can fix it. A $400 knife should be good to go right out of the box, and if it's not then you sure shouldn't have to fork out more cash. Was that really their primary, suggested solution to the issue, or did they offer to take the knife back?

I love mine - and mine was perfect right out of the box. It was weird - it didn't seem very sharp, then I went to cut a box open and it went right though it like it wasn't there - surprising me somewhat.

Sorry your having issues ... hope you get it resolved to your satisfaction soon.
 
Some of you folks like to whine about the smallest issue....if you can't afford a 400 dollar knife then you should not have bought it....i have purchased custom knives for over a thousand bucks that had some serious issues.

IMO , the umnum is one hell of a knife for the price...basically your getting a custom knife for the price of a good production.

Once the knife is broken in....i'm pritty sure it will be smoothe as a babies ass and you will have a frame lock without the lockbar issues of most framelocks (sticky, hard release).

Anyone who owns a umnum should have a take apart tool to service the knife...IMO the plastic ones Reeve is selling suck.

Relax and enjoy folks. :)
 
could have been tightened if it was going over the border to Canada or elsewhere. Safe way to beat customs:)
 
mmike87 said:
I'll go out on on a limb here and say that if it's really that hard to open where it requires two hands, the suggested remedy shouldn't be that YOU have to pay for a takedown kit so YOU can fix it.
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I'm going to have to agree that asking the buyer to pay for a take down tool is not my idea of great customer service. I think the take down tool should have been sent for free, *or* they should have requested the knife back to repair or replace.
 
ieraseu said:
I'm going to have to agree that asking the buyer to pay for a take down tool is not my idea of great customer service. I think the take down tool should have been sent for free, *or* they should have requested the knife back to repair or replace.
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I personally think he should have got the take down tool in the box with the knife, like we all should have ;)
 
ieraseu said:
I'm going to have to agree that asking the buyer to pay for a take down tool is not my idea of great customer service. I think the take down tool should have been sent for free, *or* they should have requested the knife back to repair or replace.
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plus +1
 
pvicenzi said:
Another plus for Sebenzas. They ship with a take down tool...
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Yup,

The Sebenza ships with a "take down tool" that pretty much every tool box in the world
has. The Umnum. dosn't ship with the take down tool that is totally unique to that knife.

That dosn't really make sense to me :confused:
 
Haze said:
Yup,

The Sebenza ships with a "take down tool" that pretty much every tool box in the world
has. The Umnum. dosn't ship with the take down tool that is totally unique to that knife.

That dosn't really make sense to me :confused:
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You hit my sacastic point exactly.
 
Upon reading this, the 1st thing that popped in my mind is where did you get the knife from &/or where do you live? If you're in the U.S. & the co. you got it from is also in the U.S., then yes, that's odd. If you bought it at a brick & mortar store, I would've returned it for another. However, getting a tool to fix it is certainly a solution.

As for the "travesty" that the Umnum doesn't come with a tool, like the Sebs, is that really that big of an issue?

Striders need (Well, it's easier with it, anyways) a tool to undo the pivot, but I don't recall reading a bunch of complaints that they don't include the tool with their knife.

I think people got spoiled with the Seb. Yes, it's nice that the Seb comes with a tool that just about anyone with other knives would have, but to have to spend a few $ for it isn't really that big of a deal, is it?

I'll agree with "Big Mark" here in that, while I haven't spent anywhere near the $ he has, I've had some customs that had "issues". Never mind not coming with a tool.

I think the "problem" here is that CRK set the bar pretty high in what to expect when you buy one of their knives. Then they come out with the Umnum & no tool, especially when it's a needed tool, not something most people already have.

For the OP, do you live in Canada or got the knife from a Canadian store? If not, sorry you had to go through this. I've only tried 1 Umnum (The one I have), but it was/is smooth from the get go.
 
ieraseu said:
I'm going to have to agree that asking the buyer to pay for a take down tool is not my idea of great customer service. I think the take down tool should have been sent for free, *or* they should have requested the knife back to repair or replace.
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I'm sure CRK did give the option of sending the knife back....I'm also sure they would send a call tag for free shipping.

I tell you...i think some of you guys would complain about someone giving you a free beer if it was not your brand. :D

Fact of the matter is that all you whinners that don't wanna drop another 9 bucks can use a pair of snap ring pliers....hell, i have even loosened the pivots with a couple pieces of rubber. :) :thumbup:
 
I think Chris's philosphy changed when he introduced the Umnum. He actually encouraged owners to take apart the Sebenza, but I believe I read somewhere where he asked why anyone would want to disassemble an umnum. If true, that coment may explain why the Umnum doesn't come with the tool.
 
bigmark408 said:
I'm sure CRK did give the option of sending the knife back....I'm also sure they would send a call tag for free shipping.

I tell you...i think some of you guys would complain about someone giving you a free beer if it was not your brand. :D

Fact of the matter is that all you whinners that don't wanna drop another 9 bucks can use a pair of snap ring pliers....hell, i have even loosened the pivots with a couple pieces of rubber. :) :thumbup:
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I wouldnt use any pliers, fear of scratching. Friction from rubber is a great idea, just don't over tighten. The zytel tool is designed to break before you can make the pivot too tight. I love my Umnum, great to have an all new design from CRK! Mine is super smooth, haven't even added lube. I just wish it could incorporate the pivot bushing from the Seb for perfect tension every time, and also not need Loctite to stay in place.

If you touch up that edge a bit on a Sharpmaker or water stones (better choice always) you can get it a lot sharper than factory really quickly.
 
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