New Wilmont LB-1000 kit grinder

First off, thank you for this WIP and showing us (with pics soon I hope!) another good grinder option!

You've made me really stop and rethink my decision for what to order... paycheck is here and I'm just humming and hawing as to what kit to order now :rolleyes:

This definitely looks like a well designed kit, and I love the fact that the flat platen can double as a multi-platen... Just waiting on a response as to shipping costs for me up in Canuckistan, but I'm pretty sure I would go for additional hardware kit.
 
Well, since there is a hardware list with this kit, I won't say you must to buy the hardware kit also, but I *highly* recommend it. I've got a specialty industrial hardware supplier locally, and a grainger location, so I could source it all, but there's no way once factoring in gas, let alone time, even with the list that i'd come out as cheap as the kit.

As I mentioned, even at $100ish for the kit, you're getting two $15 locking levers (which once you use them you'll never opt not to), a $10 bump knob, another probably $10 handle for the arm, a $30 or so gas spring set with brackets, and all the individual bolts and screws you need.

If you had to order any of that stuff online shipping would jack the prices well above what Wilmont is charging, and they're taking all the guess work out.
 
Ok, I've gotten kind of a slow start, because of other obligations, but I'll get the pics started.


First, and most important: A place to layout the parts, and a cup of Bourbon to warm the soul. ;) Bench space is at a premium in my shop, so I brought a folding table out to work off of. I'll eventually fab a dedicated stand for this grinder, since I don't personally like mounting spark shower machines on wooden benches.

This pic shows the bottom plate, the two sides, and up there is also the platen plate.

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First thing to get started, I'll use the disc grinder and belt grinder to clean up the ends of the 1.5" square aluminum bar that the base and side plates mount to. I forgot to take a before pic, but it's bandsaw cut a tad generous. This step is completely option, and can easily be done by hand with paper, files, or a flap disc on an angle grinder. No specialized tools other than a drill press are required for this build, but use it if you've got it:

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The goal here was just to clean up the ends and make them burr free, not trying to put a mirror finish on it. I also like to knock the edges down with a 45deg bevel on the disc. That's just me, you may prefer a flush end. As you can see, not perfect, just cleaned up:

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Next step is to lay out the bar for the baseplate holes. I'm going to use a surface plate and a height gage because I've got it:

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The instructions say to scribe a line along the length of the bar, 1/4" from each edge. This sets up a clever way to lay out the holes, as you'll see soon. Accurate layout can be one of the hardest parts of building a machine, and the Wilmont thought about this for us. Without experience, I had a lot of issues with layout when I built my first grinder.

First thing to do is to coat whichever side of the bar you choose to be the bottom, with some layout medium. I'm using liquid Dykem, since I can't find my spray, which you'll see in the sloppy consistency of the liquid, how hard it is to brush on evenly to larger areas. I should have just used spray paint. Anything will do, black sharpie, spray, whatever, as long as it will stick to the bar easily.

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Now that I've got the side of the bar coated and ready to scribe, I set my height gage to 0.25"

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Then, I run the height gage along the bar with the carbide scribe edge lightly contacting the piece, as you can see, you get a nice bright and accurate line:

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You can easily do this without a height gage or a surface plate, with a caliper, which is one of the first tools any knife or tool maker should own, even if it's a cheap second hand $15 ebay score like this one, it's more than accurate enough for this work. Just set the caliper to 0.25" and use one side of the hardened jaws as a guide along the next side of the bar, while lightly pressuring the jaw that's in contact with the layout face and drag the length of the bar.

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Now we have our lines scribed:

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Next, we'll mark where we need to drill and tap holes to attach the base plate.
 
Sweet! I just got an email from Tim at Wilmont... looks like I'm ordering this next week :thumbup:
 
Ok, back from running today's errands.


Now that we've got our lines scribed, you'll see the "clever" part I mentioned previously. We'll lay the bottom plate over the 1.5" aluminum bar, and line up the center holes, with the scribed lines. Position it front to rear, and you've got a super easy to mark template to transfer the hole locations. If you were to try and measure all the distances to lay these marks out manually on the bar, I can pretty much guarantee they wouldn't be accurate. That is however, how I would have tried to do it on my first grinder build.

Here you can see the plate overlayed:

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And a close-up of the line showing through the holes:

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Now, all we have to do is transfer these hole locations, by center punching with these schmancy fancy tools(punch is made from a broken file, since I cant find my spring-loaded punch):

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After this you can simply eyeball these to make sure they're center, and if not, make a second mark or shift the first mark with more punching. These give you not only a guideline for starting your holes, but the indent makes it easy to use a spotting drill or combined drill and countersink, to start a perfect hole that won't walk on you.

Here are all the hole locations marked:

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Here's the piece viced up on the Powermatic 1200 drill I'll be doing most of my boring with, however, you can easily do this work on a small bench drill press, as long as you've got your table level and locked down, and a press vise secured and indexed to your quill.

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The most important part of getting clean straight holes is setting up correctly in the first place. Your drill needs to be level, it's table level and square to it and tightly secured. You need to fasten your drill vise down to the table as securely as you can, after indexing your hole to the quill and tooling.

First, I use a #5 combined drill and countersink, since I know I'm going to be drilling 1/4" holes here, and the drilling portion of the #5 is just a bit smaller than this. You can use a spotting drill, or a smaller combined drill and countersink if needed, but the thicker shaft of the #5 has almost no apparent flex, where as using a small diameter drill bit to start your holes, even if they're split point and less prone to walking, can easily exhibit enough flex to drill a crooked, or angled hole, or deflect off the original mark. I start 90% of all holes I drill with one of these combined drill and countersink bits. Here is a pic of the #5, and a #2 for size comparison. Notice these are double sided, and I've broken the drilling end off one side of the #2. These drills only cost a few bucks, and are serious aggravation savers:

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It's very difficult to correct a mis-located hole, but with just a bit of forethought, you can avoid a lot of head-aches. Here I've vised up the piece in a super cheap drill vise and spotted my punch mark with the bit end approximately, I've already got my vise screwed down securely to the table, and this is essential. Trying to hold the piece while you drill is not only a guarantee of inaccuracy, but in a large 2HP drill press like this, VERY dangerous. Even in my small harbor freight bench top drill I"ve managed to destroy bits, send tools flying, and cause significant hand damage by attempting to hold the work by hand. Don't do it.

Once you've got your vise clamped down, and your work piece located to the tip of the bit, table secure, etc, all you'll have to do is unclamp the vise and move the work piece linearly to reach each of the marks on one line. It's more work initially, but it saves time and effort in the end, since you quickly move through each hole. Flip the piece around, and do the same for the other line.

Here I'm holding the piece and table in place with the quill, indexed on my hole location, and tightening up the table. I'll start with this hole, then just slide the bar in, to hit the next hole, without moving anything else:

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It's also very important, when you chuck your bit, to tighten it down loosely by hand, and turn on the drill. Look at the bit to make sure it's spinning centered. Check the tip, if you see it moving heavily from side to side, it's either chucked badly, bent, or a bad bit, or there is excessive vibration in your drill.. With cheap import drills, a lot of times this can be fixed by tightening up the motor to the belt drive. Don't observe the chuck or any other part of the spindle, just look at the very tip of the drill. The chuck may not be totally symmetrical, but if the tip isn't moving around, the bit should be turning straight.

Even with a high quality chuck(Jacobs Ball Bearing Super Chuck) in my drill, bit to bit variations mean I sometimes have to move up or down the drill shaft, to get it spinning correctly. However, occasionally, even top quality bits will be slightly bent.



Here's a close-up, double checking that my bit tip hits the center of my mark, and making sure I have no deflection. With small shaft bits, even if you setup your table correctly, being off a hair from your punch mark, can cause the bit to bend over to go down into that mark, which can cause your hole to walk. It's easy to check, just eyeball it, it's obvious when you see the bit move over to go into the punch mark. If so, just move your table or vise over a bit. Get it straight. With a little practice, it's super fast and easy:

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If all that sounds difficult, it's not! I just want to save anybody that's unfamiliar with these things a lot of grief I suffered my first time around. Learning to setup you work piece, and secure it properly, is 90% of what machining seems to be about, and I've still go a lot to learn. If you want a good primer or workpiece set in a drill, the serious way, check this URL out: http://patwarner.com/holding_the_work.html

Now that I feel confident that my work piece is moderately secure and well indexed, I start drilling. In this case, I'm not concerned with the countersink portion of my drill bit, just the drilling portion. I'm trying to put a precise starting hole for a regular drill bit to follow into the material:

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Two big problems with novice drill work, is running the bits at too high, or too low a speed. Going real slow is a good rule of thumb if you're used to working wood, but going too slow can cause you as many problems as going too fast. The best way to see how you're doing is watching the chips. I shoot for tight spirals. This bit is somewhat worn, so I get some other crud, but I"m running this bit at about 1200rpm and getting good curled chips, I could probably be going faster. Another rule of thumb, the smaller the bit, the faster the speed, the opposite being true of larger bits. Start with a very low pressure, most importantly, I"m trying to get my spot pinpointed, high pressure or erratic movement of the quill can cause the bit to walk. Once I'm sure I have the hole started where I want it, I slowly apply more pressure, but it's never high. If you're having to put any muscle into it, you're doing it very very wrong.

At this point I'm not using any cutting fluid, since this is soft material and I'm just going in about 1/4" deep to establish my guide.

First one down, slide the bar in further, and move on:

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Here's what the holes look like at this point:

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Nice action shot:

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I know this all sounds long-winded, and time consuming, but it all took less than 5 minutes from the point that I walked over to the drill, and that includes taking photos.

Apologies for the pros that already know all this stuff, but I certainly didn't when I started, and wish I had. Learning to set up your work properly, no matter what task in machining or knifemaking is the most essential step to creating top results in my humble opinion. Take the time to learn that, and life will be good.
 
Most excellent thread Javand! Thanks for spending the time to be so detailed. This will be an excellent accompaniment with the manual for folks putting these together.
 
Thanks Phil. I hope it's not overly detailed. I took twice as many shots as I posted.


I've reached my Kentucky Quota, so no more pics tonight, but I'm working on it.
 
i appreciate the details your putting in and the set up advice! please keep going this way, the guys who will think it's too windy prolly already know this stuff anyhow!

jake
 
I think some of the folks that are likely to buy this grinder will appreciate the step by step to get things right.
 
I realize that Javand has a life outside of Blade forums but i am really stoked for the next installment on this WIP!

jake
 
Haha, sorry, today, I promise.

Uploading pics is a pain, and I've been stuck on some pressing projects.
 
Hurry up :D

No wait, don't! I just ordered all my wheels and this kit.... I don't want to get too jealous! :D:D:D
 
hey wolf, how much did the shipping run yah up here to canada?(pm me if you want) I'm really interested in getting this grinder. in fact i'm gonna sell all my paintball gear to fund it.....
 
Most excellent thread Javand! Thanks for spending the time to be so detailed. This will be an excellent accompaniment with the manual for folks putting these together.

+1

I'm betting you're Wilmont's best salesman at this point...lol...I know that I've about halfway made up my mind to buy one instead of a KMG. Just wanting to see how this bad boy is going to go together.

I appreciate the time and effort you're taking in doing this WIP. Thanks and thanks more!
 
hey wolf, how much did the shipping run yah up here to canada?(pm me if you want) I'm really interested in getting this grinder. in fact i'm gonna sell all my paintball gear to fund it.....

PM Sent buddy!

Fingers are getting itchy already... soon soon soon :D
 
Real sorry guys. I had every intention of updating yesterday, but got sidelined by pressing projects I had forgotten about.

I'll get more progress made on this as soon as I can.
 
I got a bit of time today to work on this some more. When we left off, I had set up all the holes for the aluminum bar to mount the bottom plate.

First things first, I have to make sure my helpers are ready to work:

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They claim to be, but I'm doubtful. So I'll proceed on my own...

The instructions that ship with the kit, say to bore the holes 1" deep with a .203 (13/64) bit, and then tap with a 1/4-20 NC tap, but my tap chart says to use a No 7 (.201) drill, and since we're only tapping 6061 aluminum, which is very soft, and I'm using premium quality taps, I'm going to go with the No 7 drill, to get a tighter fit with more pronounced threads. If you have limited drill selection, or are using taps from Lowes/Home Depot type locations (no matter how expensive they are), the 13/64 bit may be a safer option.

So I index my drill off the top of the bar, in the vice at the level I'll be clamping it down, by simply touching off the tip of the drill, and moving the drill stop down.

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This way I know that my drill is only going to go this deep in the bar.

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However, this is not crucial, as there are sufficient clearances with the holes on the side plates and bottom plate that all of these holes can be drilled through. This just creates a cleaner look, as you wont have holes in the top of the bar, once it's secured to the base plate. I know this, since after I absent mindedly drilled the first hole through, I checked the clearances. ;)


Anyway, at this point, we simply chuck up our drill (either No 7 or .203), and drill the holes we've marked, using the drill stop to set our depth. I'll now start using cutting fluid, to ensure a clean hole and to eliminate heat build up or damage to my bit. The aluminum cuts easy and cool with good bits and fluid. If you're causing your cutting fluid to smoke, you're going too fast or with too much pressure. Especially in the aluminum this shouldn't be an issue.

Go slow, with light pressure, and remember to raise the quill slightly out of the hole occasionally to help clear the chips and to apply more cutting fluid if necessary. You don't have to use gallons of it, but you dont want it to be dry either. Don't try to simply drill the entire hole in one stroke either. Very little pressure is necessary, just the weight of your relaxed arm. If you're properly indexed, and clamped up tight, with a level table, you shouldn't experience any chatter. If you do, try reducing your rpm, or checking that everything is properly secured.

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Notice my drill chuck down in the vise guides? It shouldn't be there. Stick a small rare earth magnet to the side of your drill press head, and always return your chuck to it after using it. Old habits die hard, and replacing a drill chuck is expensive and a pita.

Go slow, and use plenty of cutting fluid:

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If everything is lined up, you should be able to cut these holes in a couple of minutes, just by sliding the bar forward in the vise like we did when we marked.

Now we've got all the holes drilled, I chucked up my counter-sink, and lightly countersink all the holes. This de-burrs them, allowing a tight fit up, and helps to start your tap, and also keeps the tapping process from raising a thread. Some people prefer to countersink after tapping, I find it better to do it first.

The instructions call for a 1/2" or 3/4" countersink. Top quality countersinks are expensive, compared to some of the other tooling, but if you're only buying one, I recommend getting the largest reasonable size you can afford (up to 1"). I'm using a 1" Drill-Co single flute countersink, which cost about $50, but the advantage of a high end large countersink, is that they'll last indefinitely, and you can always countersink smaller holes assuming the same angle. I do 95% of my countersinking and hole deburring with this countersink, and standard flush fitting flat head 1/2" bolts, the type you'll use on tooling arms or platen assemblies have a 3/4" head, with a standard 82 deg taper. So I recommend a 3/4" countersink over the 1/2".


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We're not trying to countersink this bar heavily, just knock the corners of the hole off, but I find that when countersinking, you want to apply consistent even pressure, or they're likely to chatter. Move into contact with the work piece, and apply a medium amount of even pressure, at low speed. The aluminum cuts easy, so try not to over-do it.

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Here's what we're looking for, it's not a super smooth finish, but it can be difficult to get that when trying not to over do it, on such soft material, it's not going to matter though, all we want to do is create a recess for the tap to ride, and remove any burrs that will prevent a tight fit of the bottom plate:

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Countersink all of the holes, clean up your oily mess of a bar, and then check to make sure the holes line up ok on the bottom plate. Honestly, with 5 off-set holes, as long as 3 or 4 of them do, you'll be fine. The two on either end are the most important. Try to line those up, and then whichever ones in the middle. If you did it right, they should all line up, but even mine weren't perfect.

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