New Winklers arrived today!

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Exactly as promised and right on time, my new Winklers arrived in today's mail. :) I ordered the WK II Combat Axe and Stealth Axe each with rubberized handles; the grips are tacky to the touch, and extremely sure handling. I wouldn't want to be on the business end of either of these tools. Both axes are exquisitely crafted. Mr. Winkler makes an amazing product line ... many thanks to him ... and he is a true gentleman to deal with. Photos as soon as I can post them ...
 
Here is the link to photos of the two Winkler hawks:
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He does make some serious tools. Looking forward to the pictures.
 
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http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae57/jframer1965/Winkler Hawks/

I have included images of both axes, as well as size comparison pics next to each other, and in my hand. Hopefully these photos will give a satisfactory perspective on each.

A few initial thoughts ... without question, Mr. Winkler makes an amazingly high quality product. Full tang construction sandwiched between the rubber scales lends itself to near indestructibility and water resistance. The Stealth Axe is a bit smaller than expected ... that said, it is an interesting alternative to a combat knife. Though not practical for forward thrusts like a Kabar-type blade, dagger, or bayonet, it has a significant beard for hooking or gouging, and the rear spike resembles a screwdriver point. It is extremely light and maneuverable, and seems well suited for very close quarters infighting where a sharpened edge is necessary, as is something that can offer a blunt force strike. It is also extremely concealable, and will do well inconspicuously attached to a belt or pack.

The larger sibling (WK II Combat Axe) is all business. Suitable for one or two handed use, it is well balanced, and hefty enough to land a heavy blow. For combat purposes, it feels "right" ... capable of slicing, hooking, spiking, and crushing whatever is in its path. I have no doubt that the rear spike could penetrate body armor or a Kevlar helmet, or at the very least, do significant damage upon contact. For breaching duties, this axe should go through wood, glass, sheetrock, and various type of metal with minimal difficulty.

I am neither LE nor military, and I doubt that I could seriously test either of these axes in the normal course of a day. I look forward to putting them through their paces however, and highly recommend Mr. Winkler's handiwork.
 
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Nice hawks! Thank you for the pics. The inhand pics are great!

Kind regards
 
They're sure nice to look at.

Full tang construction sandwiched between the rubber scales lends itself to near indestructibility....

I'm not certain that is the case. I would be concerned with any 'hawk or axe where the haft is thicker than the thickest part of the axe head. What happens when the blade enters the wood up to the depth of the haft? I'll answer that. You'll start beating the crap out of your haft. I haven't used one so I can't say for sure that the haft wont take such a beating. I'd just be pleasantly surprised if it could.

I've seen some other 'hawks where the head sticks thru the haft instead of the other way around. You know darn well those are gonna fall apart as soon as you use them. They might look cool on the wall but they would be of little use in the field, IMO.
 
They're sure nice to look at.



I'm not certain that is the case. I would be concerned with any 'hawk or axe where the haft is thicker than the thickest part of the axe head. What happens when the blade enters the wood up to the depth of the haft? I'll answer that. You'll start beating the crap out of your haft. I haven't used one so I can't say for sure that the haft wont take such a beating. I'd just be pleasantly surprised if it could.

I've seen some other 'hawks where the head sticks thru the haft instead of the other way around. You know darn well those are gonna fall apart as soon as you use them. They might look cool on the wall but they would be of little use in the field, IMO.

At the top of the haft/handle, the steel is 3/8" thick. The scales could be cut, burned, or broken of, but I think the tang will still be in tact. I'd like to meet the human that could break that with their own strenth.
I have a GG&G Battle hawk, a full tang, 3/8" thick S7. The G-10 scales are screwed on, therefore the weakest part of the hawk. I have thrown this hawk at dead trees, beat the living crap out of it, punctured sheet metal, I've hit square on the g-10, with no damage, and there is no way I'm strong enough to break the steel tang.
The thinnest part of the Winkler's tang is in the butt of the handle, and there it's 1/8" thick, and this end is away from the impacts. In most of the pics, you see a profile shot, from the top you would see how thick they are where the head meets the handle scales, they are stout.


Great looking hawks by the way! I almost chose the Combat Axe over the Winkler-Sayoc RnD, it's still a very tempting axe.

Right after I got my Winkler Sayoc, I thawed out a Turkey breast that had been in the freezer since 05'. I hung it up with some string and took a few swings, WOW! I only had to swing from my elbow to slice through the entire rib cage. A slicing swing felt little resistance from the breast, yet cut 3"-4" deep and about 6"-7" long of a gash.
The same slash from a knife would take more effort, as the Sayoc hawk has more weight at the end of it's 13" length.
The only thing that stopped it from sinking further in was the handle, just due to it's shape. The handle ergonomics and mass distribution are quite impressive on my hawk, it really feels powerful and alive in hand.
 
Foxx ... I agree completely. There is no way, no how, either of these axes will experience head separation under even the most rigorous use. As the head and shaft are crafted from a single piece of stock, there are no obvious weak stress points, as there are with a two-piece head and shaft axe. For me, the ultimate proof of durability is the fact that Mr. Winkler's products are designed for, and used by military personnel in far more demanding situations that us civilian mortals could conjure up. If I do break one however, I'll post pics and an explanation asap. :)

Many thanks once again to Foxx for steering me toward Winkler. Much obliged!
 
My pleasure mc5aw! I hope it's okay to show some pics of mine as well? In honor of Easter, I've used an appropriate background, Happy Easter!

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I'm sure you're right about the strength of the tang. I've never doubted that. And they'd be handy in a fight. I just think that the handles would get knocked loose if you gave the tool a serious workout. There's a reason why working axes are made the way the are.
 
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