"Newbie" considers using Commander

MercuryHayze said:
I don't get all this talk about loose lockup on EKI knives. Mine was a little loose when it got to me from the factory, a half turn of the pivot screw fixed all that.

I've found that with the washers that Emerson uses, you can tighten down the pivot to remove all bladeplay and then just open and close the thing a few times and the action smooths out.

If your EKI is not tight, I think you can make it so by a little fussing w/ the pivot.
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that is correct imho,
 
The liner-lock should not be wearing out after a year, four or five if it must, but not one. That is a problem in-and-of itself, no matter how good their CS is.
 
Thanks for your responses, I am now settled down with my commander and rotate it with my AFCKs as one of my EDCs.

As for the linerlock, the only trouble I have with it now is a bit of slipping on the tang ramp if I press down on the back of the blade hard. But this doesn't happen if I open with enough force. The liner is staying quite well on the left.

I've bent the liner for more force on lockup, but then it overengages. Then I bent it back for less engagement, then it didn't lock up positively, it under-engaged. Now I have got it to somewhere in between, and hope it is OK.

Thicker liners would be desirable.

After all this, I want to say that Emersons are not as bad as some people say, but they are definitely for users who are able to tolerate and handle the linerlock. If you don't think the 1)wave and 2)total disassembly is important, and if you can't stand the linerlock, then look for something else.

I'm satisfied with my comm, but I know I will always be looking at the linerlock, and it will never beat my other folders for lock strength and relaibility. But then again, it will come out faster than my AFCKs(very, very important sometimes), and I like to be able to disassemble it.
 
and then there are the folks who have had waved EKI's for years with no problems.....and they are probably in the majority, EKI isnt alone in the liner lock wearing issue, i have had spydercos and BM's with probs also, no mass produced knife is gonna be 100% perfect, some lemons will appear, imho EKI has no more probs in this regard than any other manufacturer.
 
Thanks for your responses. I am not used to linerlock knives, and I am slowly learning how to live with this comm. It really helps that you can disassemble the piece and adjust the liner and second detent.

Now I've adjusted the liner to overengage a bit, because I was apprehensive that the liner would slip off the tang to the non-engaged position. I bent the liner to the right to make it engage more forcefully, and also pushed out the second detent more. The tendency for slippage to the left has vanished. Now the liner locks up nearer the centre of the tang, with a left bias, but I am OK with it, because I am happier with a bit of overengagement rather than a bit of underengagement.

IMO, where the liner locks up on the tang is not as important as whether engagement is positive or not. The liner must have enough vitality to push hard to the right, to prevent slippage to the left when pressure is applied to the back of the blade.

IMO, if one is able to handle the linerlock, then the emerson easily becomes acceptable.

Interesting knife, now I'm thinking of getting the CQC-7. IMO, these are the two knives that the company is known for.
 
OK, it's been some weeks now and I haven't had a problem from my comm since, except that it seems kind of sensitive to lube getting on the linerlock interface, when there is lube on it, the liner locks in too deep and is a pain to disengage.

So now I put minimum lube on it and that seems to work best.

On the thick edge, I guess if we want a thinner edge it's up to us to reprofile it, but I'm too lazy to do so, I'll just stay with the thick edge, at least I know this edge may not slice well compared to my other folders, but this edge will not roll if it hits something hard and this point will not break off if it gets caught anywhere.

In that sense it is "hard use". You could say that the blade is designed for "hard" use, except that the linerlock doesn't give one the confidence one might get from other locks. Other than that, I am satisfied, and might even get another emerson, maybe a 7.
 
try an SOCFK they are less expensive and waved, also not seen as much, i like my tanto SOCFK a lot better than my '7, also like the handle better.
 
use a Q-tip to to wipe the back of the blade keep this clean it will lock better. The edge angle of my commander was about 20 degrees from factory I used spyderco pro files and polished the edge with the fine stone it is almost to sharp to belive. I do understand your edge angle problem it was like that with my CQC-8 but I reshaped the edge and now both knives will cut 3/4 in. free hung minila rope like butter and still keep a hair flinging edge
 
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