I thought many of you would get a kick out of these. Although many know of the Lovett-Loveless Connection Sub Hilts, many don't know that I have been making them for many years. So I thought I would post the very first one I ever made. (Sub-Hilt) Not first Knife. This one is apx. 17-20 years old, give or take a year or two. It was made for L. Chow around 89 or 90. Next is an older short guard Jr Bear, made before the Loveless Connection. These older knives are recognizable by the work maker not appearing in the logo. Please feel free to give opinions. You will notice that they are closer to the old Lawndale Loveless style than todays Sub-Hilts.Mike and Manuela