That's a pretty nice looking 2x48 and I think that is something you would want (that or the craftsman) and I would go with the 4" sander with the 5" disk it will be much more versatile, you will use the 2x48 for blades and other heavy grinding(get nice grinding belts) and the 4" belts sander is real handy for handles and flattening stock.
I would look into getting some nice files for knife making to maybe two halve round and two flat files. other than that it just takes allot of work and patience and persistence
plan to spend allot on (Good)materials as well
Have fun
Daniel
Do you have any previous experience with working with your hands...making things??
reading if you haven't already:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/452465-***Newbies-Good-info-Here***
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...reads-All-The-Good-Info-You-Want-In-One-Place
heres a better search engine if you want to look stuff up:
https://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=011197018607028182644:qfobr3dlcra
The Count's Standard Reply - Newbies Reading and Study List:
The Count's Standard Reply to New Knifemakers V32
The answer to a 13 year old student is different than a 60 year old machinist
We have members worldwide, you may have a local supplier, hammer-in or helpful neighbour.
Please join our community and fill out your profile with location (Country, State, City), age, education, employment and hobbies so we get a sense of where and who you are.
Look at the threads stuck to the top of the page.
The basics in the simplest terms
Absolute Cheapskate Way to Start Making Knives-Printable PDF-Right Click and Save
http://www.2shared.com/document/hk4w...ay_to_Sta.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3622507/Jo...-Making-Knives
Web Tutorials
Detailed instructions by Stacy E. Apelt
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=694673
The Things I Advise New Knife Makers Against-Printable PDF
http://www.mediafire.com/?8og1ix21j9dcz4n
Handle Tutorial - Nick Wheeler-PDF
http://www.mediafire.com/?02ra4do6xyzayeq
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/cache/ar...w1/scales1.htm
Bob Egnath how to
http://www.engnath.com/manframe.htm
Books
A list of books and videos
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=43
BladeForums - E-books or Google books
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=603203
Books I like:
David Boye-Step by Step Knifemaking
Tim McCreight-Custom Knifemaking: 10 Projects from a Master Craftsman
Clear, well organized, widely available and inexpensive.
Knife Design:
Think thin. Forget swords, saw-tooth spines, guthooks, crazy grinds and folders for your first knife.
Look at hundreds of photos
Start with a drawing and show us, we love to comment on photos.
French curves, graph paper and an eraser are vital tools.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...0#post13120810
Then make a cardboard cutout template & draw in handles, pins and such.
Use playdough to shape a comfortable handle, good handles are not flat.
How to post a photo
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...on-BladeForums
Google books thread for Lloyd Harding drawings, Loveless book & Bob Engnath Patterns.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=603203
Bob Engnath Patterns in a PDF
http://www.mediafire.com/?qgx7yebn77n77qx
Forging Books:
Lorelei Sims-The Backyard Blacksmith - A modern book with colour photos - forging - no knifemaking.
Jim Hrisoulas- Check for the cheaper paperback editions.
The Complete Bladesmith: Forging Your Way to Perfection
The Pattern-Welded Blade: Artistry in Iron
The Master Bladesmith: Advanced Studies in Steel
Machine Shop Basics -Books:
Elementary Machine Shop Practice-Printable PDF
Http://www.archive.org/download/elem...00palmrich.pdf
The Complete Practical Machinist-Printable -1885-PDF
http://ia700309.us.archive.org/6/ite...00rosegoog.pdf
Right Click and save link as.
Its being reprinted now if you prefer paper books
The $50 knife Shop-not recommended
This book has a great title, but is NOT gospel. It confused me for a long time.
Forging is NOT necessary; you can file and grind to create a knife (stock removal)
Forget the Goop Quench BS, Even back when they used whale oil, it was still liquid oil.
Use a commercial quench oil & match oil speed to the steel type;
Grocery store canola oil works for some steels like 1084.
Junkyard steel requires skill and experience to identify and heat treat it properly.
Forget Lawnmower blades and railroad spike, start with a new known steel.
Good heat treating needs accurate temperature control and full quench.
You can buy proper steel like 1084FG from Aldo very cheaply, and quench in Canola.
Cable damascus is an advanced project has no place in a beginners book.
The grinders are the best thing about this book, but 2x72 belt grinders free plans are now on the web.
Videos
Don't be this guy
Heat Treating Basics Video-downloadable
Right click and save this. Watch it once a day for 10 days.
http://www.archive.org/download/gov....vnb1_512kb.mp4
Safety-video
Right click and save this. Watch it once a day for 10 days.
http://www.howtomakeaknife.net/FreeS...afetyVideo.wmv
Many knifemaking videos are available, some better than others.
The best beginner videos I have seen:
Steve Johnson-Making a Sub-Hilt Fighter
"Ed Caffrey - Basic Bladesmithing-Full DVD-ISO"
Custom Knife Sheaths -Chuck Burrows - Wild Rose
-(Paul Long has 2 videos, his sheath work & videos are fantastic, but more advanced-with inlays, machine stitching)
Green Pete's Free Video
Making a Mora bushcraft knife, stock removal, hand tools, neo tribal / unplugged heat treat.
Use a piece of known steel, not a file. This as an example of doing it by hand with few tools.
"Green Pete" posted it free using torrent files.
Be sure to look at the other titles I mentioned too - spend some time searching.
Greenpete Knifemaking Basics-on TPB
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4995...ushcraft_Knife
How to download that video
http://www.utorrent.com/help/guides/beginners-guide
See a list of videos for rent and read the reviews, Some are good, some bad, expect to wait weeks or months
http://smartflix.com/store/category/9/Knifemaking
Draw Filing Demonstration
YouTube video -Draw Filing-for a flat finish
Nick Wheeler- Hand sanding 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I4x4QLpfnk
Steel
The welding steel at Home Depot / Lowes
is useless for knives.
Forget about lawnmower blades ,files and other unknown junkyard steels.
For all the work involved, it is very cheap to buy and use a known good steel.
If you send out for heat treating, you can use
Oil quenched O1, 1095, 1084
Or air quenched A2, CM154, ATS34, CPM154, 440C, plus many others.
For heat treating yourself with minimal equipment, find some Eutectoid steel and quench in Canola oil.
1084FG sold by Aldo Bruno is formulated for Knifemaking, Cheapest & made for DIY heat-treat.
http://njsteelbaron.com/
Phone # 862-203-8160
Suppliers List
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=699736
Heat Treating
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...84&postcount=7
You can send blades out for heat treating at $10 or $15 per blade for perfect results, and avoid buying the equipment.
Air Hardening Stainless Steel Only
Buck Pau Bos -Be sure to check the Shipping and Price tabs.
http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=bio.paulBos#
http://www.texasknife.com/vcom/privacy.php#services
Oil Hardening Carbon Steels and Air Hardening Stainless Steel
http://www.petersheattreat.com/cutlery.html
http://www.knifemaker.ca/ (Canadian)
FAQ's
http://www.hypefreeblades.com/faq.html
1095 is a good carbon steel, but a bad choice for a beginner with limited equipment.
1095 is "Hypereutectioid" and needs very precise temperature control and proper fast quench oil Like Parks 50 or Houghton K
Kevin Cashen - 1095 - hypereutectoid steel
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...ee-steel-types
If you are sending one or 2 knives out for heat treatment, use 154-CM or CPM-154 or CPM-s35vn and ship it out to TKS -Texas Knifemaker Supply
It's the cheapest way to do 1 or 2 because of HT minimum charges.
Quenchants for Oil hardening steel
Forget the Goop Quench and Motor oil.
Use commercial quench oil & match oil speed to the steel type;
The best explanation and classification oil speeds I've seen
http://knifedogs.com/showthread.php?...g-II-Quenching
Grocery store canola oil works well enough for your first knife-if you use the right steel like 1084
Brine and water are cheap, and technically correct for "water hardening" steels W1 and 1095 but a fast oil like Parks 50 or Houghton Houghto Quench K are less likely to give you broken blades
If you use water or brine, expect to hear a "tink" and have a cracked or broken blade
Glue Epoxy
Use a new package of slow setting 30 min to 1 hour, high strength epoxy to attach blades to handles and seal out moisture.
Slow epoxy is stronger and gives you time to work with it.
Surface Prep is vital, drill tang holes/ grind a hollow, roughen the surfaces with abrasive or blasting is best.
Ensure the surface is clean and no oil including fingerprints.
Use Acetone & Alcohol, or Blasting.
Don't over clamp it. Avoid a glue starved joint when all the adhesive is squeezed out.
Use:
Brownell's Acraglas
West Systems G Flex
JB Weld
Grinder / Tools
Hand Tools
You can do it all by hand with files and abrasive cloth like the Green Pete video.
Just use 1084 instead of a file.
Stacy - 10 Tools
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...7#post11983527
Photo of a nice bevel filing jig
Grinders
A professional three or four wheel 2x72 is worth it
In my opinion, variable speed and a small wheel attachment are essential on a good grinder.
You can almost always improve tracking with more belt tension. It needs to be way tighter than you first think.
Entry Level Grinders
Sears Craftsman 2x42 belt grinder
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...13000P?prdNo=3
Low Speed Modification Craftsman 2x42 belt grinder
Commercial Production 2 x 72 Belt Grinder Reviews
http://www.prometheanknives.com/shop...ues-3/grinders
http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCKnifeMakingGrinders.htm
DIY 2 x 72 Belt Grinders
KMG Clone Free Plans
http://www.metalwebnews.com/manuals/knife-grinder.pdf
NWG No Weld Grinder
http://usaknifemaker.com/plans-for-t...-50-pages.html
EERF Grinder (EERF =Free backwards)
http://www.wilmontgrinders.com/Pages/EERFGrinder.aspx
http://blindhogg.com/blueprints.html
Buy the kit
http://polarbearforge.com/grinder_kit.html
What Belts to buy?
http://www.usaknifemaker.com/abrasiv...uy-p-1393.html
VFD Variable Speed made simple
Step pulleys are not as cheap as you may think
Maska cast steel pulleys are good and well balanced $75 EACH here plus shaft, bearings, belt
It all adds up to about 1/2 the price of a KBAC-27D
I like direct drive with no belts using a VFD and 3 phase motor for about $200 over the price of the step pulleys with much finer control.
Yes you can get cheaper NEMA 1 VFDs and build your own enclosure
You may find them cheaper at other retailers and on Ebay direct from china.
Wayne Coe
http://www.waynecoeartistblacksmith....rs___VFDs.html
VFD-
KBAC-27D
Motor
3 phase 220v 1.5 HP motor, TEFC, frame 56 or 56C,
RPM is up to you many are happy with a 1700 RPM running at double speed.
Make sure it has a footed base for the KMG and NWG, or a C flange face mount for Bader, Bee, Wilton and GIB styles.
I get them on ebay, even with paying $80 for shipping to Canada I save $$$ on a used motor.
The 1.5 HP combination is the most common, as reported by Rob Frink
It allows you to plug into any 110vac, 15 amp outlet.
A 2 HP motor requires a 220vac input.
There are cheaper VFD units like the TECO, but the only VFD I have found that will run a 1.5 HP motor on a 110v 15 amp input is the KBAC27D
It is NEMA4, sealed from metal dust that can burnout the unit.
It has good community and company support, manuals, hook-up diagrams, photos and settings on Rob Frinks website.
I like the fact that I can buy it from a local distributor in Canada.
Travis W reports running a 2 HP on a 110v circuit, but I havent tried it.
Hookup is dead simple
http://www.beaumontmetalworks.com/VS-setup.html
Safety Equipment
Protect your -Eyes, Ears, Fingers, and Lungs remove jewellery and use safety gear.
Respirators
Chronic lung disease and cancer really suck the joy out of life.
Goggle "Ed Caffrey lung cancer"
Wearing a mask on the top of your head doesn't count.
The minimum I would consider are silicone half masks with a P100 Filter
3M 7500
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawe...n=CH7500FP.pdf
and North 7700
http://www.amazon.com/North-Safety-7.../dp/B002C08YCW
http://www.amazon.com/North-7580P100..._bxgy_hi_img_b.
Use a VOC & P100 combo cartridge for protection against acetone and solvents.
Prefilters can snap over the main filter for longer life.
There are 3 sizes, buy one in person at a safety supplier and get it fitted.
For beards, pick one of these
3M PAPR
Resp-O-Rator
3m Breathe Easy
Trend Airshield Pro
Air Cap II
Searching
This Google page searches BF and works well.
http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=01...:qfobr3dlcra
Can I get rich making knives ?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...4#post11980504
V32 Jan 27, 2014 Nick Wheeler hand sanding 101 added
Darrin Sander is no longer HT'ing blades.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...reating-blades
Last edited by bladsmth; 03-14-2014 at 09:21 AM.
