News: AZ: Rabid Mountain Lion Attacks Boy, 10

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Story here:
http://www.kpho.com/news/15557876/detail.html

Az Mountain Lion Behavior (link in story):
http://www.azgfd.gov/h_f/game_lion.shtml

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Rabid Mountain Lion Attacks Boy, 10

POSTED: 4:03 pm MDT March 10, 2008
UPDATED: 5:55 pm MDT March 10, 2008

PHOENIX -- A rabid mountain lion like the one pictured attacked a 10-year-old boy north of Phoenix on Saturday, before being shot to death by a family member, said Randy Babb of the Arizona Department Game and Fish.

"The family was riding all-terrain vehicles, took a break and while relaxing, an adult female mountain lion attacked the boy," Babb said.

The boy was lucky to have suffered only minor scratches to his back, Babb said.

The incident occurred in the Tonto National Forest in an area called Sheep Bridge in the extreme southeast corner of Yavapai County.

The region is on the back side of the Mazatzal Mountains, a rugged mix of desert chaparral and pinyon-juniper vegetation, according to Tom Cadden, public information officer for the Arizona Game and Fish Department.

"One of the adults shot the animal and transported it back to their residence," Babb said.

The mountain lion was then submitted to the Arizona State Health Laboratory for testing. The boy and several others who may have been exposed to the cat will undergo preventative rabies treatment over the next few weeks, Babb said.

"Very seldom ever to see large mammals with rabies," according to Babb. "They're more common in bats, skunks and gray foxes. We're not expecting to see any more animals this large with rabies."

Babb stressed the attack was mostly likely an isolated incident.

So far this year, 14 animals have tested positive for rabies at the ADHS State Health Laboratory, including two others in the last week -- a coatimundi from the Oracle area and a rabid fox from the Clifton area. There were no human exposures in those cases, but three dogs were exposed to the rabid fox.

At least 27 pets have been exposed to rabid animals this year, according to Game & Fish officials.

"It is imperative for pet owners to immunize their animals against rabies and to ensure that these vaccinations are kept up to date," said State Public Health Veterinarian Dr. Elisabeth Lawaczeck.
 
Charges could be a good way for lawmakers and the public to see why it's a bad law to ban guns in parks in the first place.

A gun saves the day again.
It's funny how most people see guns as evil when I see the opposite.
Firearms are the greatest invention/protection of personal safety and liberty ever invented.
That kid owes his life to a firearm and a man who was man enough to disobey the sheepeople law and bring the tool that was needed to protect his family.
 
I agree with the assessment that the ban is dumb. However, to avoid the management making me move this thread to Knife Laws or - gasp - the Political Arena, let's keep the discussion away from those subjects. :D
 
Here's the latest advice on mountain lion defense, stolen by me from someone's post in W&C:

mountain_lion_encounter.jpg
 
Damn that would be scary.
 
A hungry mountain lion is aggressive enough. But rabid? (shudder)

I've gone up against rabid raccoons, and those little 30 lb. guys, when foaming, are hard to put down!
 
I always carried in Arizona. They don't bother you. Rabies is a major problem there this time of year. Shows up in squirrels, bobcats, raccoons and mountain lion now. I was in a canyon and found fresh track and scat. Hair went up on my neck. I carried from then on.
 
Happily, this rabid one seems not to have been at the top of its game. Sorta sauntered in between the people, then took the kid's head in its mouth, but didn't--maybe couldn't--bite down. Scary as Hell, yeah. But I'm thinking that the same rabies that may have caused the aggression also prevented the animal from its usual, more-effective "pounce from behind, fatally bite neck before prey knows what hit it" attack.

As for prosecuting the rescuer/shooter, if I were a prosecutor (especially one who doesn't want the no-carry law repealed instantly), I'd quietly let this case drop.
 
In the Nat'l Park, huh? Will there be a prosecution?

Andy

It says the attack occurred in the Tonto National Forest, which isn't the same as a National Park. AFAIK the carry laws in a National Forest are the same as the carry laws in the state it's located, i.e. if the state allows open carry or CCW then the National Forest does as well. Most NF allow hunting as well.

That mountain lion must have really been out of it to attack the child with the family nearby.
 
I think I've read somewhere that a pretty-high percentage of mountain lion attacks on kids (may've been 40%) took place with the parents right there. It was kind of a counterintuitive statistic, if my memory serves.
 
I'd think if the animal were rabid, most of the usual advice goes out the window.

BlackHills is correct. National Forest areas are different from National Park areas. Firearms are treated differently, generally tailored to local laws and environmental conditions.
 
I think I've read somewhere that a pretty-high percentage of mountain lion attacks on kids (may've been 40%) took place with the parents right there. It was kind of a counterintuitive statistic, if my memory serves.

It makes more sense if you think about the couger's natural prey, deer.

Most deer don't carry knives, none carry guns. So when a couger is hunting and sees two large animals and one or more smaller ones, it might be inclined to say to itself "Adult deer, adult deer, juvinile, adolescent...."

Guess which one it would tend to go for?

Andy
 
Dang...first thing I thought was " What If " that adult had no firearm, Geez that whole situation could of gotten really bad real quick...
 
Environmentalists have trouble with this.

Mountain lions= carnivores.
People= carne.

Repeat.

I wish all these tofu-heads in New York and San Francisco had mountain lions, wolves, and bears stalking them and their kids. They'd think differently.
 
Environmentalists have trouble with this.

Mountain lions= carnivores.
People= carne.

Repeat.

I wish all these tofu-heads in New York and San Francisco had mountain lions, wolves, and bears stalking them and their kids. They'd think differently.


The two legged wolves prey on them at will and they don't have a problem with that.
 
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