Next build 9" dagger, any suggestions?

[Scott Hanson]

This is going to be the next build, a customer was asking about it a while back. It's a 9" dagger blade made from 5160 steel heat treated th HRc-60 same as the Bowie knife I just finished. Feel free to comment.

 

[fishface5]

I think a Randall Model 2 - Fighting Stiletto style of handle and guard would look lovely on that!

 

[Scott Hanson]

I think a Randall Model 2 - Fighting Stiletto style of handle and guard would look lovely on that!

I never thought of that, now that is a good idea. I also have a 5" boot knife dagger blade that could also be a candidate for a Randall model 2 fighting knife handle.

 

[The Zieg]

If it were my knife, I would want it to have a more reduced guard than the Randall quillons above. Just enough, I suppose, to prevent the hand sliding up. Like the Randall, though, I would want to have a flattened grip so as to index the blade for slashes and cuts.

Then, again, I have mostly given up my dagger collection because of a lack of usefulness (to me). Still, I look forward to seeing how these two turn out!

 

[Scott Hanson]

If it were my knife, I would want it to have a more reduced guard than the Randall quillons above. Just enough, I suppose, to prevent the hand sliding up. Like the Randall, though, I would want to have a flattened grip so as to index the blade for slashes and cuts.

Then, again, I have mostly given up my dagger collection because of a lack of usefulness (to me). Still, I look forward to seeing how these two turn out!

Are you thinking more on the lines of this?

 

[SharpBits]

I like guards somewhere between the two Randall’s shown. However, like The Zieg, I have little need for daggers despite having a few.

This will be an interesting build to follow, however.

 

[Scott Hanson]

I like guards somewhere between the two Randall’s shown. However, like The Zieg, I have little need for daggers despite having a few.

This will be an interesting build to follow, however.

I've been looking at my stag pile and a dagger with a Model 25 trapper pattern in stag has been rattling around in my head for a while now, but with a refined, contoured double guard.

 

[Scott Hanson]

Something like this but even everything out. Use the same thickness material on the a guard as the but cap and make the the guard a smidgen longer. Oh and use a straight piece of stag.lol.

 

[jlauffer]

Something like this but even everything out. Use the same thickness material on the a guard as the but cap and make the the guard a smidgen longer. Oh and use a straight piece of stag.lol.
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Yes! Although I think the guard is about perfect as is. While I love the bowie you just did for Mack, IMO the guard was a bit too long.

 

[Scott Hanson]

Yes! Although I think the guard is about perfect as is. While I love the bowie you just did for Mack, IMO the guard was a bit too long.

Yes, I left the guard on the long side on purpose because this is a fairly large Bowie knife over 10 1/2" blade, more along the lines of an American made pre civil war style knife. Right after the civil war ,with reliable cartridge ammunition becoming available, large Bowie style knives became less important as a secondary weapon and started becoming smaller and more refined.

 

[Mack]

Yes! Although I think the guard is about perfect as is. While I love the bowie you just did for Mack, IMO the guard was a bit too long.

If this was to be used as a camp type knife I would probably agree with you. Since it will only be used, if push comes to shove, in the manner for which it was designed, I like the guard exactly as it is.

 

[Legendary_Jarl]

How about using the past for inspiration?

 

[Acutereference]

IMHO, a large double edged dagger is a collectible, a fighting knife, or a pig sticker. For a collectable, maker / customer's choice. For the latter two, a significant, sturdy cross guard is in order. I could show you a scar.

 

[Scott Hanson]

How about using the past for inspiration?

I like that, it looks like an antique dagger. The metal sheaths are a work of all by themselves.

 

[Scott Hanson]

IMHO, a large double edged dagger is a collectible, a fighting knife, or a pig sticker. For a collectable, maker / customer's choice. For the latter two, a significant, sturdy cross guard is in order. I could show you a scar.

I've been kicking around the idea of a Randall model 25 handle but I can't get it to look right in my head with this narrow of a blade. I think I'm going to stick to a Scagel style handle, I got some nice fresh ideas.

 

[Nate’s Knives]

I like that, it looks like an antique dagger. The metal sheaths are a work of all by themselves.

The thread that Jason Fry did a few days ago, really brought light to the metal sheaths

 

[Scott Hanson]

The thread that Ben Seward did a few days ago, really brought light to the metal sheaths

I know Jason Fry started a thread on metal sheaths in Shop talk, it turned out really. I've made a Whiskey flasks in the past using none lead solder. I can tell this much, that much soldering will test your patience.

 

[Acutereference]

I've been kicking around the idea of a Randall model 25 handle but I can't get it to look right in my head with this narrow of a blade. I think I'm going to stick to a Scagel style handle, I got some nice fresh ideas.


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Modernized / updated "Coffin"?

 

[Nate’s Knives]

I know Jason Fry started a thread on metal sheaths in Shop talk, it turned out really. I've made a Whiskey flasks in the past using none lead solder. I can tell this much, that much soldering will test your patience.

That’s who I meant…my bad. I corrected

 

[Scott Hanson]

Modernized / updated "Coffin"?

Coffin handle has crossed my mind also. Like the old Huber and English Bowie knives.