Nightmare Grind

[RevDevil]

I do not own a knife with this grind style, but am interested to learn a bit more about it. Is there a specific purpose for this grind? Or would it be mostly aesthetic?

 

[Dorito Monk]

Maybe it's sole purpose is to make the knife really difficult to sharpen?

I bet that's where the name comes from - it looks like it would be a proper nightmare to maintain.

 

[ericb445]

Its called a Nightmare, Because Mick said it is a nightmare to do the grind.

 

[Helios123]

It is just a blade with different types of grind that is suitable for a range of purposes. The hollow ground is for sharpness and utility work, which I think can be effective for whittling. The flat ground at the tip makes the tip strong and thick maybe for prying. The swedge at the top is probably just to make it lighter or drop the point more to the center to increase piercing capabilities.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Maybe it's sole purpose is to make the knife really difficult to sharpen?

I bet that's where the name comes from - it looks like it would be a proper nightmare to maintain.

It's a grind, the edge angles are all the same angle.

 

[Dorito Monk]

It's a grind, the edge angles are all the same angle.

Cool story bro.

Recurve + Tanto = a nightmare to sharpen in my book, in any case.

 

[Supmonkeyface]

You guys are overlooking the main advantage of this grind; the appearance.

I find it badass.

 

[RevDevil]

You guys are overlooking the main advantage of this grind; the appearance.

I find it badass.

Same here. It looks cool, but not too much of the mall ninjary touch. Although, many people think that if a knife looks different from a KaBar or a Buck 110 - it's mall ninja junk.

 

[FlaMtnBkr]

It's a grind, the edge angles are all the same angle.

The main bevels are ground at different angles for different uses. I would be willing to bet the edge angle are ground different as well to stick with the different purpose theme. The front thicker flat grind looks to have a edge bevel the same width as the thinner hollow grind area. A more obtuse edge angle would be required for that to occur.

 

[myt132-cu]

The main bevels are ground at different angles for different uses. I would be willing to bet the edge angle are ground different as well to stick with the different purpose theme. The front thicker flat grind looks to have a edge bevel the same width as the thinner hollow grind area. A more obtuse edge angle would be required for that to occur.

Pretty astute assesment.

I agree it would probably be too much PITA to maintain for me to EDC it. Tantos aren't very practical to me either, but I still think it's kinda cool.

 

[knarfeng]

http://faq.customtacticals.com/geometry/grind_nightmare.php

A Nighmare grind is not really a grind, but a blade feature, like a recurve. The Nightmare grind is basically an additional grind that is done by Strider to some of their custom MSC or DDC models. It resembles a deep hollow grind taken out of the middle of the blade edge creating sort of a hook or recurve depending on how the grind is done. The Tom Brown Tracker knife from TOPS has a similar feature.

According to Mick Strider, the Nightmare grind is named as such because it is a Nightmare to Grind. Some of the nightmare grind models have two nightmare grinds overlapping, which creates a very unique look.

Allen Elishewitz's Horus and Anubis folder designs for CRKT both have what is essentially a Strider Nightmare Grind as well.

 

[RevDevil]

Interesting, thanks knarfeng

 

[Macchina]

Cool story bro.

Recurve + Tanto = a nightmare to sharpen in my book, in any case.

My question:
Who has these two unique qualities:

1. Owns a nightmare grind Strider.
2. Is concerned about the actual difference in slicing quality between a full flat grind and a hollow grind on a piece of $500 sharpened .25" steel.

Sounds like that knife/grind was designed for the French Commando who likes his stinky cheese to be sliced newspaper print thin...

 

[richard j]

that knife would be gravy for me to sharpen. maybe an extra minute to change wheels.

 

[SIFU1A]

My question:
Who has these two unique qualities:

1. Owns a nightmare grind Strider.
2. Is concerned about the actual difference in slicing quality between a full flat grind and a hollow grind on a piece of $500 sharpened .25" steel.

Sounds like that knife/grind was designed for the French Commando who likes his stinky cheese to be sliced newspaper print thin...

if ya find a strider SmF custom, with the nightmare grind for $500 let me know, IIRC they run a bit more than that, its only on the strider custom stuff.

i had a SmF w/the NM grind for a while, never carried it and swapped it after a few months, sure looked cool though FWIW and i dont think it looked to be any big deal to sharpen, i never tried though.

i have had quite a few SKI's thru the yrs, production and custom, & other than my 1st one, a SnG, i never carried them much, if any, i always found something i had to have and SKI's are excellent trade fodder, i klnow i sure could live with a SnG for edc use though with no probs, they are imho one of the better edc folders.

 

[brandonc]

To sharpern just use the corners of the stones on a spyderco sharpmaker.

 

[RevDevil]

that knife would be gravy for me to sharpen. maybe an extra minute to change wheels.

I was wondering what the pro sharpening people thought about this thing too.

 

[myt132-cu]

Are they ground 50/50, or chisel?

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

To sharpern just use the corners of the stones on a spyderco sharpmaker.

That's all i ever sharpen with and i can get my knives hair splitting sharp. I don't so much like the flats, and i can sharpen quicker with the corners. I use the flats for tips & hand sharpening.

 

[richard j]

revdevil, when you have sharpened knives for as long as i have you learn a lot of tricks. even without the paper wheels that knife would be easy. all i need is a piece of wetordry, a piece of glass and a can of pringles