No BS, whats got a stronger lock, Axis, or REKAT Carnivore?

SB · Feb 8, 2000

I assume this is a rhetorical question? Because otherwise, without a good head-to-head test, the answer is, "Both are more than enough."

dogboye · Feb 8, 2000

Benchmade has the better lock for that size. It will not fail, no matter how hard you hit it. It is on the Nimravus Cub.

Sorry, I just had to throw that in, since Cougar Allen apparently is nowhere to be found.

Seriously, though, if you are going to be doing something that will even come close to defeating either of these locks, you DO need a fixed blade. There are probably literally hundreds of fixed blades in this size, or close. You might have to adjust your carry methods slightly, but it is an easy thing to do.

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FullerH · Feb 8, 2000

My Carnivore is a "Pre-Production" model and is very smooth with very tight lock-up. My Sifu is a production model with equally smooth action and tight lock-up.

BTW, wasn't there a guy who did a series of lock tests where he duct taped a Carnivore to a length of pipe and bashed the back of the blade against a tree. The only result was that the knife eventually tore free from the pipe, but the lock NEVER gave up.

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Cliff Stamp · Feb 8, 2000

Johnny, regardless of the fact that people are not failing Sebenza locks, limit tests on them are obviously very important and to disregard them is not sensible. What about developing new locks? Lets say someone offered Chris a design that was easier to lock and unlock, just as secure, required vastly lower production time and the only drawback was that the strength was different. Without a definate statement about the strength of the Integral lock the ability to evalute this possible replacment is very difficult and with it, the decision is trivial.

-Cliff

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JoHnYKwSt · Feb 8, 2000

Cliff,

I never said we should disregard the lock stregnth tests, or that these tests are not important. All I am saying is that for me and obviously for Chris, the sebenza's lock is strong enough. Strong enough so that other aspects become more important when choosing a lock.

If you have to tape knives to bats and bash them against trees, or put them into a vice and hammer at them to get them to fail then the lock is strong enough. When you use a knife, you don't stress the lock very much. Even if you use the knife for purposes it was not intended for.

On the other hand, knives that can withstand more lateral stress are better in an ELU point of view than knives that can withstand less. These tests are more relevant towards ELU's. Prying should not be done but is very likely in an emergency situation. Lock strength on folders however, is grossly over rated.

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No BS, whats got a stronger lock, Axis, or REKAT Carnivore?

SB

dogboye

FullerH

Cliff Stamp

JoHnYKwSt