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'No Frills' $75.00 home studio tent/lightbox

Discussion in 'The Gallery' started by SharpByCoop, Jan 10, 2005.

  1. nozh2002

    nozh2002 Banned BANNED

    Jun 9, 2003
    I ment the last piture with knife, not sword. For knife also possible to make setup as for sword using reflection not diffusion.

    Thanks, Vassili.
     
  2. SharpByCoop

    SharpByCoop Enjoying the discussions Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 8, 2001
    Hi Dan,

    You must have a 'digicam' and not a DSLR. Nothing wrong with that. That's what I had (Sony F717) before buying the Canon EOS-10D, then Canon EOS-20D, and now the Canon EOS-5D.

    That was a big change for me not being able to view my images on the LCD screen (or the TV!!!) until I shot the image. Only then I get the captured shot. So I have to look in the viewfinder for preview, and the LCD is only for review. I don't know of a good DSLR that has a preview feature. No biggie, anyway.

    Coop
     
  3. nozh2002

    nozh2002 Banned BANNED

    Jun 9, 2003
    Olimpus announce something like this recently.

    Thanks, Vassili.
     
  4. Dan Gray

    Dan Gray

    Jun 25, 2001
    Oh Man now I'm going to have to get a DSLR camera:rolleyes: :p :D
    I had My old Sony ( still do) but it's so out dated but I loved the ease of it.
    right on to a 3.5 disk, this one I have now a Nikon, does a good job as long as I spend the time with it but I still can't get the light right inside..I have a lot of light short of a lighten strike I think:eek: :) I'll get it right some time when I can get the time to mess with it ..
     
  5. bennett

    bennett

    212
    Sep 22, 2005
    I´ve been stuck in Monterrey, MX for about a month and was just looking at the forums (finally). Heading home tomorrow (finally!) and will definitely be building one of these boxes. Great information, Mr.Coop - and you are by no means a fool! Thanks again...
     
  6. SharpByCoop

    SharpByCoop Enjoying the discussions Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 8, 2001
    You don't know me well enough to say THAT! ;) :eek: :p

    Coop
     
  7. 3rdMusketeer

    3rdMusketeer

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    Mar 24, 2006
  8. Murray White

    Murray White Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 1999
    good link. yes I do have something like that as well as another product which I have mentioned in posts in this thread.

    Dan--you don't need a DSLR either. All my knife images are done with the Nikon 995 CoolPix and you can see many images in the thread both Coop and I and some others are contributing images to in relation to "natural handle material" in "custom"
     
  9. Dan Gray

    Dan Gray

    Jun 25, 2001
    yes I know that I was Joking with Jim ;) the one I'm using is a
    Nikon Coolpix 3200
    one my son got me for the Xmax before the last..
    it's inexpensive but works well if I take care of what I'm doing :)
    very little touch-up on this one shot outdoors
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  10. Murray White

    Murray White Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 1999
    you sent this info also http://www.kynd.com/~graydg/gray160-m.jpg

    with this comment "very little touch-up on this one shot outdoors "

    if you look closely at the image, there is a reflection on the guard and butt that appears to be tree leaves and also the color of the blade is "blue" so actually, a fair amount of digital limage retouching would be required.

    Can't recommend strongly enough to use a light tent and daylight flourescent bulbs which I have also posted the type I'm currently using and the power of each.

    someone commented in another post that they were having problems with the front fill light in that it was creating a secondary shadow (at least that was how I interpreted the problem). This is why I use the light from behind that has a 3x power of the one I use at the front.

    Just adjust the front light physically to give the specular highlight desired. Again, check the thread re "knife handles" and you will see how the technique is used.
     
  11. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    Hey guys, I've kinda skimmed through this thread trying to learn about taking photo's. My wife bought me a kodak Z740 5 meg pix digital camera the other day for my birthday. I like it so far but don't know anything about camera's yet. I built the light box Coop Show at the beginning of this thread, I made mine out of hard bord, I seem to have to over do most things I do, but anyway the lights I have are 75 watt but they don't specify day light bulbs. I'll have to change them. I've taken some pictures lately and some turn out ok but they still seem pretty fuzzy to me compared to most of yalls. I'll try to post them Some are of a slip joint I finished this morning, a liner lock I finished last week, and my light box setup. I love you photo's Coop, I frequent your website usually every few days to see if you've added anything new. I would use you for taking pictures of my knives but I'm toooooo tight! :D Thanks for all the help Coop & everyone else. Dwayne

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    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/ddushane/lightbox1.jpg

    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/ddushane/lightbox3.jpg
     
  12. Murray White

    Murray White Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 1999
    this is about the lightest background I use

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    keep the eye on the knife not background.

    here is something from the handles thread (well, actually it has not been posted yet as I have not done the stag stuff) but this is good to look at

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    ok, now I'll post an image with the main background I use and keep in mind it is exactly the same background as what you see behind the cutout and the cutout is just part of the main background. all that has been done is some simple image manipulation to create a more interesting but related background.

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    I have various parts of the background that I use at different times but you get the general idea. It is an old painters concept that dark makes light.

    now from looking at those images, you will also note that the composition is such that not much background is left over (cropping) and that the knives are on the diagonal to create leading lines whereas strong vertical and horizontals are quite static in nature.

    check the thread as I believe I posted the type of lighting that will work very nicely as Daylight Flourescent.

    I'm not familiar with your camera so don't know its closest focusing distance and that is something you may want to check out. Also check out is you have macro capability which is great on the Nikon 995 CoolPix.

    good luck with your photo endeavors.
     
  13. Dan Gray

    Dan Gray

    Jun 25, 2001
    Murray
    just so you didn't miss understand me..
    I didn't say it didn't need retouching
    I said I did very little to it.
    if I wanted to spend the time with it and didn't want the leaves in it
    I would have just used my light box..either inside or out side..that was a very quick picture with just some lightening it up..showing what that camera will do off the hip..
    BTW that is a Bead blasted blade with no retouching also,
     
  14. SharpByCoop

    SharpByCoop Enjoying the discussions Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 8, 2001
    Dwayne,

    You have good clear photos. A lot of light. I would suggest moving the lights back some, to create a little bit of shadowing towards the front. It is directly overhead right now. Then you will have a better visual of the shape and the depth. Come in from behind at a 45* angle and use a board reflector in the front.

    As I learned, a light box gives images a bit of a hazy look, so adding more contrast will really help give it some 3-D again.

    Keep at it, you smart cheapskate.... :p :thumbup: ;)

    Coop
     
  15. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    Thanks guys, I'll keep all of it in mind. The camera does have macro, but not sure what that is, I just know I read it somewhere in the book. It's also got a 10X zoom but haven't figured out exactly how to use it to my advantage.
    Coop, as far as the lights, for some reason when I shot the photo's today that are posted above, I put the lights real close to the plastic bag. I'll back them off a bit and make sure to have them pointing in at a 45* angle like you said. I'll also try to use a darker back ground like Murray said. I appreciate the helpful hints, I also appreciate you starting this thread in the first place. I've always wanted to be able to take good pictures of my knives and will have someone else shoot'em when I'm at the show's but haven't gone to any in some time. One question, is it better to get the camera real close, or back it off and use the zoom? Thanks again for the comments, Dwayne
     
  16. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    I also have adobe photo shop 5.0 but have very limited knowledge about it. I have corel photo paint too & play with it some to touch stuff up; all of the pics on my website that aren't done by Point Seven are just scanned from my scanner. Some look ok, but some have a purple cast to them. All help is greatly appreciated!:rolleyes:
     
  17. SharpByCoop

    SharpByCoop Enjoying the discussions Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 8, 2001
    Dwayne,

    Set your camera on macro, even if you shoot from 24" away. Don't use the digital enhanced zoom. Zoom to the point of non-digital enhancement (Many cameras have a guide for when this starts.) The '10x' feature is bogus. They just expand the data to a larger frame, without a true zooming in closer.

    Get in 12-18" away on a folder.

    The light's proximity is OK, and yu may want to step down your aperature (f-stop) or shorten your shutter speed to get less light in. Just drawing the lights down will have the same effect, though.

    Round two?

    Coop
     
  18. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    Thanks Coop, I'm going to get in there and try some more and try what you just said plus what murray was talking about with the darker colored back grounds. Thanks for all the help!:thumbup: Dwayne

    P.S. Here are some other pics I took of some knives on my available page from other makers. I'm not sure if I have my website updated right or not. It works from my home computer but when I checked it last night from work the pictures didn't show up.

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  19. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    Hey guys, I'm using your tips, Here's some more pics. The one on the blue background was done with the lights backed off and the camera up close; approx 12" away. The one with the green background w/stars was shot without lights on the light box, just the lights on in the kitchen, I thought it was the best so far. Thanks for the help & comments, and any additional comments are welcome. Dwayne

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  20. ddushane

    ddushane

    174
    Apr 19, 2001
    Murray, How do get your pics to post so big? While on my coputer working on them in photo shop, if you view them in actual size they seem to be enourmous, I mean only being able to view the bolster, some of the handle & less than half of the blades. What's up with that? :confused: Dwayne


    I'll shut up for a while, maybe :rolleyes:
     

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