No highs, no lows, must be Bose.

I am still determined to not get involved in another discussion of the quality of an audio system, however, I must point out that MP3 is what is known as a "lossy" compression algorithm. It relys on a function that in theory says you can remove quieter sounds from a recording without missing them. The truth is, you can hear the difference on a decent resolution system, even at 256kbps. This is engineering fact, not speculation.

Sunee, real nice phones there. Which Counterpoint? SA-2000, SA-3000 or perhaps teh much revered SA-5000? You don't hear that name much these days. Look here for service and upgrades for old Counterpoint components performed by the original engineer, Michael Elliot.

John
 
jmxcpter
Which Counterpoint? SA-2000, SA-3000 or perhaps teh much revered SA-5000?
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Sorry to burst you bubble but the Counterpoint is just a Solid One power amp not the SA series preamps. It was specifically matched with the ADS's mid drivers and the Onkyo M-504's were matched with the tweeters. I have tried many combinations and this set up suits "me" the best. That means my ears, not the salesman's, fellow audiophiles or Audiophile/High End Audio mags. My preamp is a Mackie mix board. The best preamp I have ever listened to. Music sounding the way the studio recorded it.
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sunnee
 
they were loud--great for parties-especially for rock n roll , as for audiophile quality-not really(my opinion)

bose 901+velodyne sub= rock on:D
 
Originally posted by jmxcpter
I am still determined to not get involved in another discussion of the quality of an audio system, however, I must point out that MP3 is what is known as a "lossy" compression algorithm. It relys on a function that in theory says you can remove quieter sounds from a recording without missing them. The truth is, you can hear the difference on a decent resolution system, even at 256kbps. This is engineering fact, not speculation.

John
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Sure it is loosy. For archiving purposes I use Monkey Audio which saves about 50% space and is looseless.
What I wanted to say is a well made mp3 is very close to the original waveform. If you use a mp3 codec that makes lousy lowpass and highpass filters (like Xing) you will get a mp3 that is nowhere near CD quality and has a range like 100Hz-17KHz. If you use a good mp3 codec, you don't mess with the filters thinking "huh, 19KHz ... I don't even hear that, let's cut it out", you will get good quality for 20% of the space.

Anyway, please allow me to whine about something too. Is it just me or lately many CD's have poor sound quality? I mean too loud, almost saturated. Anyone else noticing that?
 
Originally posted by scfishr
they were loud--great for parties-especially for rock n roll , as for audiophile quality-not really(my opinion)

bose 901+velodyne sub= rock on:D
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The great debate in my early years of audiophiledom. Quad 901's (one in each corner of the room) with two Phase Linear 400's or doubled Powered Advents (stacked tweeter to tweeter) with the Advent 300 tuner/pre-amp.
 
Originally posted by Blue Jays
Hmmmm...a thread opened with the primary directive to "slam" a certain company. That's taking the intellectual high road.
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That's me. Always on the high road.

Thanks for your contribution.

-- Rob
 
Originally posted by flava
Anyway, please allow me to whine about something too. Is it just me or lately many CD's have poor sound quality? I mean too loud, almost saturated. Anyone else noticing that?
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Yup. There's seems to be no texture. Like one flat loud wall of sound. At least with the latest rock offerings. Probably some dynamc range compression going on to sound loud over the radio.
 
Just thought I would throw in my 2ct's worth, when I first got into audio back in the early 80's at Avaino Air Base. Everybody told me the 901's were the Holy Grail, not being one to blindly follow the pack. Plus not having the money saved up yet, I investegated on my own. Mostly thru Stereo Review, a lot of hours in the speaker room (which was far from ideal, but you work with what ya have) and a fellow like minded friend. The best speaker we ever got in was by far a Klipsh Cornwall horn speaker, it had 15 woofer that blew all the JBL's, Pioneer's, Bose whatever right out of the room. I alway's thought the Bose 901's sounded flat, the 301's or the 601's seemed better to me.

I recently read an old review by my recently departed psedo-audio Guru Julian Hirsch that rated the 901's extremely well. I almost fell off my chair, but imagine he had them set up better than what I heard in my friends dorm or the base exchange.

I have been a fan of Planer speakers ever since I heard some huge Acoustat's back in the states. Planers image like nothing else, add in their height, fast moving diaphagm's, and di-polar radation pattern. And I don't think they can be beat, of course I would throw in a good subwoofer to compensate for their lack of loud and low bass.

I think the older Bose do sound better than Acoustamass series, just not as Spouse friendly. Plus a lot of people listen to them using the latest action movie out on DVD and this helps mask their flaws when it comes to music.

I recently bought a NAD 7153 Reciever, this will be used to power a set of MMG's from Magnepan as soon as I can afford it. I like Magnepan as the have great reputation for customer service and their speakers are easier to drive than electrostatic's. While Planer speakers do not do everything well I think their short coming's are easier to correct than with other speakers.

Does anyone have Monsoon planer speakers for their computer like me, I have the MM2000 and the midrange is so smooth, it is hard to describe. I am worried though since Monsoon does not make these anymore, I hope they last a long time untill something better comes along.
 
I have Bose going through Nakamichi, sounds OK, not as good as a set of KEF's though but nowhere near the cost either.

I quite like Bose sound.

Its like discussing Literature, wine and women. You like what you like what you like :0)
 
Temper,

which Bose do you have I am betting it is not the Acoutmass series, I am big fan of Nakamichi's older stuff, they had a cool look and the egineering to back it up. Also at least you acknowledge there are better speakers out there, you seem much more informed than the average Bose consumer. Alas so many of them just repeat what Bose's ad campaign tells them. :barf:

On the Accoustamass series, or any other speaker with setup with the same size driver's. The Accoustamass Bass Module (notice how they don't have the guts to call it a subwoofer) a lot of the lower midrange comes thru it. Therefore making Bose's claim that you can place it anywhere in the room, wrong. Also making a lot of your sound mono :grumpy: Face it people, for better sound you need bigger speaker's. Not refrigerator sized one's, but I would say at least a 1/2-1inch tweeter and a min. 4 inch midrange, and a decent sized subwoofer say around 10 inches or more.
 
To be realistic, most folks over 25 or 30 can't hear the range available on most moderately priced speakers. It really is a case of "what sounds good to you".
 
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