No knives on planes?

It's not that you NEED knives on the plane, it's just the fact that you have it. We have the right to have a simple tool made for opening boxes and such, without being demonized for it.
 
FCM415 said:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/travel/tsa-knives/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I was about to start a thread about it....

Personally doesn't affect me, Ive been a frequent traveler all my life but I never once needed to use a knife on a plane. The butter and plastic knives they provide is sufficient for cutting the chicken or beef. The big picture, knives still get a bad rap which sucks.
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That's all fine and dandy, but what about when you get to where you're going???

Last summer I flew to Key West for a vacation that included fishing, kayaking, and general outdoor activities. Had the choice of either checking the bag, and trusting that a light finger TSA or baggage handler doesn't steal my knife, or spend more money to ship it to myself. This JUly We're going to Oregon for hiking, rafting on the Rogue River. How far do I have to go to have a knife with me hiing in Oregon? Again, shipping, or putting in checked bag and trusting that the bag makes the switch and plane transfer in Denver.

It's just a shame that when even the TSA wants to allow small pocket knives that the chicken chits scream bloody murder until it's a no-go. I don't get that mad over many things, but as much as my wife and I are traveling now in our retirement, that I can't take even a small SAK with me.
 
I hope that all of you who have posted so far are members of Knife Rights. If you want someone on your side that can do something they are the go to people.
 
Last I heard they just starting to permit small non locking knives on planes. I believe ideally they only want people to carry plain swiss army knives on planes. For some reason those are less intimidating to most sheeple.
 
Knight88 said:
Last I heard they just starting to permit small non locking knives on planes. I believe ideally they only want people to carry plain swiss army knives on planes. For some reason those are less intimidating to most sheeple.
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Most people they interviewed on TV (or whose opinions were actually aired) didn't even want little SAKs, deeming them too potentially dangerous.

Jim
 
I have no desire or need to have a knife available to me when I am on a plane. However, I usually carry a small multitool in my laptop bag because I need it in my work from time to time, and it's a pain to have to search my laptop bag and other carryon bag (which I keep a number of tools in) every time I have to fly somewhere and pack everything in my checked luggage. All I want is to have my work tools available to me and not have them taken away because I forgot to check a zipper pocket and there goes my Leatherman Squirt into the trash.

I think they should just go ahead and outlaw air travel completely since it's clearly such a huge risk.
 
jackknife said:
That's all fine and dandy, but what about when you get to where you're going???

Last summer I flew to Key West for a vacation that included fishing, kayaking, and general outdoor activities. Had the choice of either checking the bag, and trusting that a light finger TSA or baggage handler doesn't steal my knife, or spend more money to ship it to myself. This JUly We're going to Oregon for hiking, rafting on the Rogue River. How far do I have to go to have a knife with me hiing in Oregon? Again, shipping, or putting in checked bag and trusting that the bag makes the switch and plane transfer in Denver.

It's just a shame that when even the TSA wants to allow small pocket knives that the chicken chits scream bloody murder until it's a no-go. I don't get that mad over many things, but as much as my wife and I are traveling now in our retirement, that I can't take even a small SAK with me.
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What I have done in the past is to leave my knife at home, use that as an excuse to buy a new knife when I get to my destination and then ship it home. I always try to buy a blade that I would have purchased soon anyway, so that is a good thing.

I try to never check luggage anymore as I have lost luggage or valuables from inside my bags when checking them. If I need more than I can carry on, I UPS to my destination anyway. Costs more, but your stuff actually gets there and isn't stolen.
JMO.
 
I never carry a knife on the plane but someone from the SF gave me a tip that I use often. I zip strap the knife to my shaving kit zipper inside my checked luggage. The Spyder hole works great for this, its not impossible for a baggage checker to steal it but you need to spend some time on it to cut off the zip strap so it makes a little less likely. I usually just take a Salt series knife with me does great in all climates and its a pretty yellow colour that doesn't worry to many NKP's.
 
Sometimes, the bag of pretzels is a little hard to open without spilling them everywhere..... I might want a knife to make the job easier.
 
jackknife said:
That's all fine and dandy, but what about when you get to where you're going???

It's just a shame that when even the TSA wants to allow small pocket knives that the chicken chits scream bloody murder until it's a no-go. I don't get that mad over many things, but as much as my wife and I are traveling now in our retirement, that I can't take even a small SAK with me.
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You know what else is fine and dandy? I've checked in my knives since God knows when, I'm always traveling and never had any issues getting them with me in my destinations (hint:you can keep it in a locked container). Lucky? Maybe. But I'm glad I'm not as paranoid as you are. I'd have it mailed to my destination hotel maybe an option for you because reality is, there will be no knives on the plane. Reality sucks.

Look, I understand that it is more of a freedom thing, I'm with you on that end. Carry it on a plane for carrying's sake. What I am saying on my post is... I have found that I have no use for a knife or SAK accessories on the plane anyway, I could macgyver something hehe...Or ask the stewardess for a corkscrew... Either way this pans out, I got fixed blades and folders checked in.
 
I very rarely check a bag when flying so I took a Leatherman Micra and Dremeled the small knife blade out of it. All the tools and scissor/no knife blade. TSA doesnt know what to think. I get a supervisor called over every time and then they ok it. Most of them open it and then can't figure out how to close it.--KV
 
It's ridiculous. I heard some person being interviewed who mentioned the whole box cutter thing. Even if they allowed box cutters or small knives today, there would not be a repeat of 9/11. We're ready for them now. Are they going to cut their way into the cockpit with them? Might take a week to do it. They still allow me to bring my tennis racquets on the plane. I like my chances against any knife wielding foe. I can cleave and stab with a shattered graphite head. I'm not sure whether they allow baseball players to bring bats onboard, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just ridiculous.
 
The fact of the matter is that ANY object can be used as a weapon, including a pen/pencil, comb, toothbrush, boots, neckties, and even your bare hands/elbows, etc., all of which are easier to use than a SAK Classic in a fight, if someone knows what they're doing. Oh, and better not allow house/car keys, either...that's serrated metal there. The bad guys have been allowed to win; they've effectively instilled into the majority the terror of ordinary, useful objects like little penknives as if they are WMDs. And obviously, this goes much further than merely the right to carry or not carry a little pocketknife on a plane. At what point will common sense return? It makes me wonder if the day will come when all airline passengers will have to submit to being restrained like Hannibal Lecter during flights.

Don't forget the incident aboard a plane where a doctor saved a choking person's life by performing an emergency medical procedure with another passenger's SAK (pre-9/11, obviously). Now, the chances of that happening are small, sure, but the point is, people don't consider the *positive* benefits of small pocketknives, which far outweigh the negatives. People just see or hear "pocketknife" or "blade", and they panic.

To be honest, I'm not at all surprised that the whole penknives back on planes idea has been scrapped.

Jim
 
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Whether we need a knife on a plane or not is debatable, the fact that concerns me is that I peceive that it is my right tohave a blade on me at all times. I consider a knife first and foremost a tool and a "possible" weapon as second. My reasoning is that I was not born with long sharp claws or big teeth with a huge bite force so I should be able to have some sort of cutting tool on me. I admit there are obvious places that prohibit knives but if everyone was carrying we wouldnt have to worry about that one bad guy sneaking in with one.
 
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