No More Mister Nice Guy

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"The fact is, if the seller cancels the transaction and refuses to send your item, there's nothing you can do about it. He will refund your payment and refuse to send the item. The fees are minor. What can hurt him is the neg."

Finally something true.

"But the transaction is canceled whether you like it or not."

Still totally wrong and I can post a link to the listing and transaction that was mine and prove that it's still there in the records. Not cancelled.
 
Still totally wrong and I can post a link to the listing and transaction that was mine and prove that it's still there in the records. Not cancelled.
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You're still talking about a couple dollars in fees......not the neg or the shipping of the item. If the seller is not required to ship the item, the transaction has been canceled.

Been there, done that.
 
Semantics. When you say cancelled you mean the actual transferral of goods didn't take place. When I say cancelled I mean the listing goes away and the record of it no longer exists. I think that's what the seller wants, thinking that the feedback disappears with the listing.
 
I think that's what the seller wants, thinking that the feedback disappears with the listing.
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Now you're back to speculating about what you THINK the seller may or may not think.

Speculation about an irrelevant issue.

Sort of beyond meaningless.
 
BG42EDGE said:
So I take it he has your money and you have his knife?

;)
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Here's what you get when a listing is canceled by request:

This listing (120702533287) has been removed, or this item is not available.

•Please check that you've entered the correct item number
•Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for viewing.

And no, I have both the knife and the money. The seller decided to drop the whole deal and told me to keep the knife. He decided to forget cancelling the transaction.
 
No, that's what you get when e-Bay removes a listing.

Congrats on your free knife, though.

:)
 
BG42EDGE said:
Now you're back to speculating about what you THINK the seller may or may not think.

Speculation about an irrelevant issue.

Sort of beyond meaningless.
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What other reason could he have? ;) He was paid and has the money. He can't hope to get his seller fees back since he did in fact sell it and received and kept the money.
 
I contacted BUCK about someone here in the states selling fake items with their trademark on them and they requested I send them the knife, which I did.
As for the seller he knows the knife wasn't and has never been made by BUCK but thinks he can put anything he wants on the packaging and nobody can or will do anything. I simply contacted BUCK and did as they requested. Anything else done, is by their own decision, I'm now out of the loop.

The seller insulted my intelligence when his auction said " Brand- BUCK" but yet he doesn't sell BUCK knife. It's his own listing that he typed that had the wording. If it turns out that BUCK can't sue him, then so freaking be it.
 
You know what BG, I'm just going to put you back on "ignore". Neither one of us is going to quit and the fact is we just flat assed don't like each other. I'm getting bored with this anyway and it's serving no purpose at all except to see who can have the last word.
That's usually you, whether or not your last words make any sense at all, you insist on having them.

Adios.
 
At least you get a real Buck out of it. Good for you. Glad you did something about it. I'm sure Buck appreciates it.:thumbup:
 
Mitch W. said:
I contacted BUCK about someone here in the states selling fake items with their trademark on them and they requested I send them the knife, which I did.
As for the seller he knows the knife wasn't and has never been made by BUCK but thinks he can put anything he wants on the packaging and nobody can or will do anything. I simply contacted BUCK and did as they requested. Anything else done, is by their own decision, I'm now out of the loop.

The seller insulted my intelligence when his auction said " Brand- BUCK" but yet he doesn't sell BUCK knife. It's his own listing that he typed that had the wording. If it turns out that BUCK can't sue him, then so freaking be it.
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Well, it's just too bad that you didn't get your money back and get a free knife like Plumberdv.

I doubt Buck's got a case, because he'd just say it was a listing error and the knife wasn't marked with a Buck marking.

But I guess we all had fun anyway......and the seller got some bad consequences thrown his way.

:)
 
Plop Plop Fizz Fizz, oh what a relief it is!

Wow that is so much better. Now if the forum would give just give the option of blocking unwanted posters from any threads I start I'd be a really, really happy guy. Something like eBay has where you can block specific people from sending you messages or bidding on your items!

MODS! Are you listening????
 
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BG42EDGE said:
I'd beg to differ because he made no claim about the sheath and that was the only thing trademarked.

Good luck suing him.

:D
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Again, speaking of the governing federal law, use of the other's mark is the gravamen of the infringement, not any representation made. The seller used Buck Knives' mark in connection with the sale of a type of product Buck Knives sells. Open and shut unless you can show that Buck Knives has lost ownership of their registered marks "Buck Knives" and "Buck."

Representing that the goods were genuine Buck would be fraud, an offense against the buyer, not Buck Knives.

If the seller persists, he will be sued in order to protect property rights in the mark, even if Buck deems the seller judgment-proof (that is, unable to pay).
 
Not only will he persist, they'll all persist and increase.

Your theory rests on the sheath, but knives are sold with the wrong sheath so commonly on e-Bay that it really doesn't mean a damned thing.

Buck can sue him and could possibly win......but it wouldn't change anything, so why bother?

As I said before, good luck on suing this guy. Even if you win, which, as I see it, is unlikely, there are a hundred more like him who will be selling unabated.

Vigilante forum members harassing the sellers is more effective, but even that is questionable in that mistakes could be made and there could be injury to the business and income of innocent people.

Taking the law into your own hands and inflicting punishment is always risky and when you step on the toes of the wrong seller, could even be dangerous.

It might be entertaining, but it could go painfully wrong at some point.
 
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