No respect for Buck?

See that's the issue. No one is denying how great the 110 or a cadet is. You go to the other brands and they 10 iconic knives. Kershaw has the skyline, leek, jyd, and blur. Spyderco has a dozen: pm2, native, caly, ukpk, delica, endura, centofante, Techno, and the list goes on. Benchmade has the minigrip,presidio, stryker, balisings, contego, rift. Case has a dozen patterns that are all generic known patterns. And for me that's where I like buck for their unique slippies.
 
cchu518 said:
And anyone that says the flipper or thumb hole on a vantage small is usable is 100% drinking buck koolaid.
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Huh?... I hate to break it to you, but they are both very usable. I own the full set of vantage smalls and carry the avid daily. I have no problems using either the hole or the flipper. I don't know what koolaid I would be drinking... I have ZT, Spyderco, Kershaw, letherman multitools, and even other buck knives, yet I feel the Buck Vantage small represents a perfect edc knife... Small, lightweight, sturdy, deep carry, and razor sharp. You can carry it and not even feel like you have it on you at all.

Koolaid? Nah, I just think I can manipulate my fingers better... I guess. lol
 
I have a lot of respect for buck. ive only owned five, a 110, 112, 321, and an imported stockman and trapper. they dont seem to have the kind of "pretty" that I see in a case (ive had a few), or gec (which I have never owned), but they have never let me down. I still use my 110 and my shrade sharpfinger for almost all my hunting and butchering. I kill almost all the meat my family of 6 eats, so I use them a bunch. the 110 is an indestructable tank, in my humble opinion.
 
See there goes the kool aid again. On the one that I have...if you don't keep the pivot tight, the blade rubs completely against the scale and I mean it sits on the scale in totality. It's a quality control issue that I look past because of the Vantage having so many other good qualities. Needless to say the pivot is too tight to flip easily because of that. Does this happen on a Skyline or a $15 Kershaw Chill? Nope.

gytheran said:
Huh?... I hate to break it to you, but they are both very usable. I own the full set of vantage smalls and carry the avid daily. I have no problems using either the hole or the flipper. I don't know what koolaid I would be drinking... I have ZT, Spyderco, Kershaw, letherman multitools, and even other buck knives, yet I feel the Buck Vantage small represents a perfect edc knife... Small, lightweight, sturdy, deep carry, and razor sharp. You can carry it and not even feel like you have it on you at all.

Koolaid? Nah, I just think I can manipulate my fingers better... I guess. lol
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None I have owned a few they are just too thick to be much use,without a great amount of metal being removed
 
cchu518 said:
See there goes the kool aid again. On the one that I have...if you don't keep the pivot tight, the blade rubs completely against the scale and I mean it sits on the scale in totality. It's a quality control issue that I look past because of the Vantage having so many other good qualities. Needless to say the pivot is too tight to flip easily because of that. Does this happen on a Skyline or a $15 Kershaw Chill? Nope.
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Check out this video. You can tune up your vantage very easily, and make it work how you want it to :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKjOhgZ8Vw
 
my first real knife was a buck folding hunter in 1967 ( I think) when I was 15
and it was admired by all the real men I was working with that summer
I recall them saying that buck was the leader in high quality steels back then with the 440c
which is still a darn good steel and less cost only cause so much of it is being made
buck does use super steels now and again... the best being s30v which they seem to always offer

hype.. no buck don't need it nor do they want to
making knives that appeal to the younger tactical market yes they do that also
yes at the blade show you will hear a lot of companies making a lot of noise...tee shirts being shot from a gun ect..
and yes the bcci tables are amazing takes time to set up ect... but I would set up two if I could
as I have two different types of topics/directions on my knives,,,
so 300 if you feel it is a lot of work ... hee hee I will use your table!
naw ... I will be happy to use one and half of buckswways or ladywithalizzord's
who may not use a full table ...ugh BTW..
both of those folks are related to me ... so that has always been allowed !
yea buck collecting is a family thing here !
 
Bucks are what everyone's first knife should be.

For the non knife lover's or average Joe's, Buck will be all they ever need.

For the hardcore user/abuser, there are just too many better offerings suited to that kind of usage.

You wanna show respect for a great company like Buck, the best thing you can do is to run down to your local store and buy a crap ton of them, and start giving them out as gifts to everyone/anyone.
 
The only respect I have for Buck is "historical respect". I respect them for having a long history of knife making and bringing in the legendary 110 into the world.

With that being said I have no respect for their Wal-Mart quality knives of today. (except the Mayo TNT, and maybe a few others that I can't remember right now)
 
Double or triple the price and everyone would want one!
With a lot of things, you get what you pay for, that's true..................but not with a Buck! You get so much more. I could go to Wal-Mart and buy a 110 for around $30 dollars and would never need another knife in all honesty. But people don't want to hear that. Everyone wants the next best thing, but that $30 buck will do what more expensive knives will and be just as good or better.
 
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Just my $.02, as a "non-Buck" guy. I have a lot of respect for
the Buck brand. I really appreciate that they offer products made
in the good 'ole US of A and keep jobs near home. They have
great CS from what I've heard and it's hard not to love 'em
for that. But, I own one Buck at this moment.

The reasons are as follows. The one Buck I do own is a standard
110 folder. In general, not just this knife, I HATE hollow grind.
Scandi grind, flat-saber grind or full flat grind, I like those. But
I generally refuse to buy hollow grind. Personal preference,
but for me it's a reason not to buy buck. All their knives that looked
like I might have been interested in, have been hollow ground.

I also don't like 420HC. I admit that Buck does 420HC better
than just about anyone, but I still don't like it. I won't generally
buy a knife if it's any variation of 420 stainless. I really like VG-10,
154cm, 440c or S30V for stainless. I also like D2 or good old fashion
1095 a lot.

The biggest thing that bothered me about the 110, I didn't even
know about until after I got home with it: It has no stop pin.
The spring is not very strong and it easily allows the edge of the
blade to hit the inner frame and leave a large, dented, dull spot in
the blade. I don't carry it.

I have the 110, but I just bought it because it reminded
me of my Pawpaw (grandfather). If I could get a 110 with a
stop pin, any of the grinds, and any of the steels I mentioned I
like, I'd LOVE that knife, carry it often, use it a lot. A 110 with
nickel silver bolsters and nice wood scales, and a flat-saber
grind in S30V... Sounds like a knife I might dream about...

Basically, I love Buck as a decent quality, American made
and affordable company. Nothing but respect for them, but
their designs and materials just don't do it for me.

Nothing derogatory intended, just and explanation
of my perspective. Hope it helps.
 
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The biggest thing that bothered me about the 110, I didn't even
know about until after I got home with it: It has no stop pin.
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I don't think it needs one. It has a kick (the bottom of the ricasso), that is supposed to hit the spring before the blade does. That is how a slipjoint works.
 
Buck Vantages are flipping great!
[video=youtube;HlzDyrCdjYc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlzDyrCdjYc[/video]
[video=youtube;JeWd2t_LZbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWd2t_LZbk[/video]
 
Dogstar, I'd just like to thank you for your helpful videos. :thumbup: Great stuff.


I personally have no problem flipping or using the thumb hole on my small Vantages. That may be because I have smaller hands. Not every knife fits everyone's hands. That doesn't make it a bad knife.
 
Shrub said:
I have the 110, but I just bought it because it reminded
me of my Pawpaw (grandfather). If I could get a 110 with a
stop pin, any of the grinds, and any of the steels I mentioned I
like, I'd LOVE that knife, carry it often, use it a lot. A 110 with
nickel silver bolsters and nice wood scales, and a flat-saber
grind in S30V... Sounds like a knife I might dream about...

Basically, I love Buck as a decent quality, American made
and affordable company. Nothing but respect for them, but
their designs and materials just don't do it for me.

Nothing derogatory intended, just and explanation
of my perspective. Hope it helps.
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I just wanted to point out that if you could look past the hollow grind and lack of a stop pin, you can get a buck 110 in s30v, in nickel bolsters, and whichever scale material you decide on (that they offer), made for you from the buck custom shop. I have a 110 on the way that's s30v, nickel bolsters and indigo wood scales.

On the thread topic, I think most people on bladeforums have respect for buck and what they do, It's just as others have mentioned, I guess it's just the nature of the forum, they (me included at times) want the hyped, specialty knives.
 
On the Blade Forums I think Buck is under appreciated. I think it has a lot to do with Buck not being tacticool. Buck doesn't overcharge for their products. Many people automatically think that if a product has a fare/ cheap price then the product must be low quality. There are a lot of blade and steel snobs on this forum. But even none knife people know Buck Knives. I don't think Buck is respected on this forum, but Buck has the respect of the common person. I also think that Buck will be here when some of these other companies are gone. ( or bought out by the Chinese ).
 
I'm 42 years old. When I was young everyone had either a Buck or Schrade. I mean everyone. I think buck falls into the same Category as Case. Now this is no a slam to either company as I like them both. I belong to the Buck collectors club and am a life member of the Case collectors club. My take on it is as someone else pointed out. It seems like most knife owners today (especially younger generations) want the coolest "tactical" blade or something made out of some super duper indestructible steel. In these groups you will have folks that will either go out and abuse their knives and then wonder why it broke or folks that will just put it in the closet and brag to their friends about how great it is but they never use it. Few people have interest in traditional knives anymore. I have more Bucks than any other brand. All but 2 are or have been users. But I personally honestly like a flat grind better. This wasn't always the case but a taste I have developed over the past 10 years. My trusty 110's have taken a break since Christmas as the wife bought me my first Benchmade. But I was just thinking the other day of slipping it back on the belt.:D I guess I'm kind of traditionalist.
 
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