Non-GEC Nailbreakers

I prefer a nice strong pull on my traditionals and i don't like how GEC is getting softer but i can live with it.
I have several old Case, Boker, Camillus, Primble, etc that have strong springs, but i don't own a traditional slip joint that i would consider to be a "nail-breaker".
Milk does my fingernails good.
 
Ironic thread for me.

I have had a favorite custom slip joint for about 3 months, and have done all I know to lessen the "bear trap" closure and nail breaking opening.
I have soaked and flushed more than once, left in the 1/2 and 3/4ths open position for days at a time.

Finally decided here recently to just work it partially open and closed numerous times for as long as it takes.
Really didn't take long!

Back spring broke while I was opening/closing last night while Netflix-ing.

No use identifying the maker, as it was made in 1979. Stainless blade and back spring, and looks unused.

Shed a tear and am wondering if anyone can replace back spring.
 
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Aw, what a shame. But, I think you'll likely be able to find someone to repair it for you, among our bevy of talented brethren...!
 
Blimey Tom, hope you can get it fixed OK :thumbup:
 
I have a Boker Congress Whittler that I really like, but the Pen and Coping blades are a 9.5-10/10. I don't mind a deliberate pull, but this one is rediculous. Nearly impossible for me to open, as I keep my nails short for work. I've kept it 3/4 the way open for a few days with no help. I suppose soaking it in hot soapy water and opening it several times may help, but it had Rosewood handles, and I'm not sure if it would be a good idea. Only other thing I know to do would be break out the needle files and work on the tang.
 
I guess I'll go against the tide and say I don't see any reason for a nail breaking or strong spring that makes it hard to open a knife under any conditions. If you know how to use that knife, an easy spring is no danger, and someday you just may have to open that knife in a serious situation with cold or wet hands. Or both, with some feeling gone. An emergency is no time to be wrestling with a knife trying to get it open. You may have an injured hand of finger, or you may just get old enough to get arthritis. It's be too bad to build up a nice knife collection, only to someday not be able to open and use any of them.

Carl.

My opinion on the matter perfectly expressed.

I won't carry a knife that is hard to open, for just that reason. It isn't strong spring that bring safety to a traditional knife. It's using it correctly.

All that being said, I have a an old inexpensive camp knife (IIRC an Imperial) which for some reason (probably because it was so darn hard to open) has been in my family unused since the early 60's. I used a screwdriver to open it the few times I fussed with it.
 
I like a knife to be firm in the open and close department. Solid and sure walk and talk is what I like. I don't like slipjoints that glide open and closed really easily, it's similar to receiving a limp hand shake. Just don't trust it.
 
I understand that lots of you have no problem with the hard pulls, but I have weak fingernails- especially when my hands have been wet. So I love soft springs. I haven't really thought about whether a hard to open knife would be less likely to accidentally close on you.
Have y'all found that 'easy open= easy close'? I have a few old Westerns with really mushy springs- no snap at all- I sometimes have to push the blades closed, but there's no wobble, and I never stab at things with them, so I haven't had a problem.
 
I have a couple Camillus TL-29s that are hard. I'd call one of them a nailbreaker and the other just strong.

Ed J
 
Personally I've only handled two knives that wear full on nailbreakers, both encountered in the same shop. it was at an army supply store, the usual tactical selection, although all low end, and a couple of traditionals. One of them was a barlow, and a very nice one, brass bolster, wood scales, not sure what kind but looked like bocote to my eye. Sheepsfoot main blade I think, but I can't recall. Only said China on the tang, nothing else, no maker or anything. Ridiculously hard to open and close. I set it down and looked at the other, an Anchor-messer (not how they spell Anchor for this brand I think but too lazy to look it up right now). Single blade, sheepsfoot, white scales but not sure what material. Very nice looking knife. I could barely open it, thought I'd need pliers to do so. Closing it was even worse. I handle knives safely, but I was actually scared to close that thing. They had a second one just like the first Anchor, and same thing.

Considering the sailor's knife and the barlow from a different maker were both in that condition, I suspect the internals were all gummed up. Small but very much present flecks of rust around the tang make me even more uspicious that lack of care was the problem. too bad though, only $30, and a nice looking knife I'd love to have, but I didn't feel like sinking even that much into a knife that would need to be put in a vice to close properly. Some maintenance might have fixed it but couldn't be bothered. A hard to open knife is one thing, but hard to close again is even worse!
 
A correction, it was an Otter-Messer, seeing the same knife in the traditional & modern pairings thread reminded me.
 


This 1982 Case 6235 1/2 Jack knife is a real bear trap, both blades, with half stops.
 
I have a few Electrician's knives (TL-29) that the screwdriver blade is a nailbreaker. The other one is my Queen folding Hunter. I have had it sitting half open for quite a while and can get the main blade open without help now.

 
If you want to talk about older knives, I have some hundred year old slipjoints that make my GEC 73s (including a 2007 version with really strong springs) seem downright lazy in comparison. Some of them are real bear traps.
 
If you want to talk about older knives, I have some hundred year old slipjoints that make my GEC 73s (including a 2007 version with really strong springs) seem downright lazy in comparison. Some of them are real bear traps.

My GECs are generally easier to open than my 70+ years old Schrade Cut Co barlow and E.C. Simmons Keen Kutter jack knife.
 
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