Noob alert: Bow drill experiment + carelessness = 7 stitches.

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Jeez, on Saturday morning I was out back with the dogs and decided to try a bow drill experiment like the ones I've seen in this forum. Instead of using one of the knives I usually carry when camping, I grabbed this massive Buck "Rambo" style knife that was in the garage (having just sharpened it). Everything went well until the very last step. I needed a small flat piece of wood with a small dig to use to hold the top of the spindle. Without a thought to safety, I went to split a short stout piece of wood, something I have done many times. Usually, I place the knife on top of the wood, then baton it down into the branch. In this case, however, I just held the short piece of wood vertically with my left hand at the base and chopped down on the top with the knife in my right hand, just to get it started before using the baton.

STUPID!

The heavy knife skipped off the top of the bough and went straight down onto my left forefinger. It didn't hurt at all, but the blood started running immediately. I managed to get the dogs back inside and drove myself to urgent care. Seven stitches and $330 later, I was back home feeling really dumb. They gave me a tetanus shot, too, and I think I had a feverish reaction to that, peaking at 101.5 F last night.

LESSONS LEARNED

First, I'm glad this happened at home instead of when I was at the bottom of Linville Gorge. My first aid kit for camping and hiking is going to be a lot better from now on. With this injury, I would not have been able to re-pack my tent and gear, so I probably would have abandoned almost everything except a small pack to hike back to my car.

Second, this was a huge reminder that, even after 30 years of knife and sharp tool use in kitchens, garages, yards, woods, workshops, etc., you always have to pay attention to what you are doing.

Okay, you can all bust on the noob now.
 
Happens to the best of us, and I'm certainly not among the best of us. Glad you were able to get sewn up quickly.

He is 110% correct.As soon as you think your an "EXPERT"----Murphy of Murphy's Law will bite you.

I commend you on telling us this story--:thumbup:
-most people not on this Forum would have been too embarrassed to do so.:

Did you cut yourself with a BUCKMASTER??
 
Did you cut yourself with a BUCKMASTER??

Yep, something I bought about 17 years ago when I thought I knew what a good outdoor knife was. I mean, who wouldn't want a knife that can double as grappling hook?

It's so heavy, I have never carried it on a hike or camping trip. On Saturday, it was doing well as a chopper until my negligent incident.
 
It's like they say about motorcycles. There are those that have laid 'em down and those that will lay them down. Use knives enough and you will get complacent and it will bite ya.

According to some of the traditional knife guys, you now have to keep that knife forever. :p
 
I did the exact same thing last year batoning some wood for a fire. I didn't need any stitches, but it bled a lot till I put a pressure dressing on it.
 
According to some of the traditional knife guys, you now have to keep that knife forever. :p

Interesting. No fear, though, because I don't believe in selling any knives or guns. I did sell an old west replica revolver (Uberti Schofield) that I won at an NRA banquet, and have always regretted that.
 
No worries Bud.. I've recieved stitches in my paw for something similar... I was making my bow for my spindle and had the knife stuck in the ground beween my legs and bending the bow to tie it off when the bow broke... I drove my hand right into the blade, peeling back a NICE chunk of flesh.. I put pressure on it and had to wait until the next day to go to the ER, because I was in a wilderness class... I wasn't the only one to go to the ER the next day so I didn't feel so bad.. Another guy went in with burns on his back and butt from his firebed... Not really sure why he slept "nekkid":eek:, and don't really care or want to know..
 
No worries Bud.. I've recieved stitches in my paw for something similar... I was making my bow for my spindle and had the knife stuck in the ground beween my legs and bending the bow to tie it off when the bow broke... I drove my hand right into the blade, peeling back a NICE chunk of flesh.. I put pressure on it and had to wait until the next day to go to the ER, because I was in a wilderness class... I wasn't the only one to go to the ER the next day so I didn't feel so bad.. Another guy went in with burns on his back and butt from his firebed... Not really sure why he slept "nekkid":eek:, and don't really care or want to know..

NAKED ON A FIRE BED??

DARWIN AWARD FOR THAT MAN!!!!:cool:
 
Well, my story was almost the same but I was cutting tent stakes back in high school (1983) with a double bit axe!! 14 stitches over my knuckle at the base of my pointer finger.

Doc
 
I've done that same action many times, although usually only hard enough to get the blade to hold in the wood and only when wearing gloves. You have me wondering now though if I would still cut myself if it deflected off. I don't know, what would you do differently? Some times you have no choice (that I can think off) if you have a piece of wood that doesn't want to stand up easily.
 
What shocks me most about your story is that you paid 330USD at the emergency room :eek: !!!! For 7 stitches :eek:! Thats 47 bucks per stitch!
 
What shocks me most about your story is that you paid 330USD at the emergency room :eek: !!!! For 7 stitches :eek:! Thats 47 bucks per stitch!

About $80 was for the tetanus shot. They had to unwrap a sterile kit, inject some vaso-restrictor to stop bleeding, inject lidocaine to numb the site, etc. As a small business owner, I know how much it costs just to have an office, so I didn't begrudge this urgent care office it's money. Thank goodness they were open on Saturday.
 
hey we all make mistakes...i learned at a YOUNG age knives are to given the utmost respect (13 stitches at the base of my index finger from trying to cut a tennis ball in half...age 7).
 
About $80 was for the tetanus shot. They had to unwrap a sterile kit, inject some vaso-restrictor to stop bleeding, inject lidocaine to numb the site, etc. As a small business owner, I know how much it costs just to have an office, so I didn't begrudge this urgent care office it's money. Thank goodness they were open on Saturday.

I live in a country with free healthcare, so 330USD just struck me an awful lot. But its good that the cut wasnt any worse, and you wont be left with any permanent damage.
 
Everyone here has scars from various sharp instruments. I tried to carefully unscrew a three bladed broad head when I was 13, went right to the bone on my index and thumb. Yeah I know ..duh, one learns to respect that edge.
 
I feel your pain, brother. I've done it not once but twice.:o
The last time I was in the timber about two miles from my truck and about 4 miles from civilization. It sure made me reconsider somethings.
Like you say, lessons learned.
Iz
 
I just recently (ok, it was on.. nov 11, but it's still annoying at some times) cut myself at the inner side of my right thumb.. right across the border of the 1st and the 2nd phalanges (first thought: ''shit''). It happened when i tried to cut through a small wooden stick.. I just cut too far.

The band-aid wasn't enough so i wrapped some paper tissue around it and fixed it with some tape and went on with was i was doing (a little bit (hard) work, relaxing - saturday for a student ;)).
In the evening (10h after) i realised: i should see a doc - that won't heal by itself for quite a while.. (or will rip open nearly everyday).

Got a tetanus shot, it was sewed with one stitch (he couldn't do more anymore).
What i learned? Well, pay attention and don't cut towards you. Or at least pay much more attention when cutting towards you [i know, it would be great if i weren't doing it at all, but... i guess before i try that i have to cut myself a few more times -.-]


But... when I just read this thread i was amazed at these bills - and very glad about or medical insurance system in Germany..
I paid 10 EUR - and you always pay this amount if you see a doctor in a quarter year. I dont know how much my parents pay for the insurance of our whole family (although i dont live with them anymore i'm still insured with them) - but i appreciate it a lot that I do not have to care about unexpectable medical bills because of an accident - and i'm glad to pay a constant amount in advance.

@ Rib Salad: When the doctor removed the thread he said it would be important to use sterile instruments (i guess especially a sterile scissor or at least the tip of it) because non-sterile would often cause infections - it's what he said - maybe it could help you (i guess i would think twice of seeing the doc if i was expecting a larger bill... i actually thought a few times about it w/o expecting any costs..)

Get well soon!

Simon

//edit: i checked and it seems like my father pays 7.9 % of his gross pay for medical insurance and the employer pays 7% (FYI: you don't have to choose that - but i think its recommendable for most of all citizens)
 
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To clarify my medical expenses, my health insurance is "catastrophic." That means I have a $5,000 deductible. If I get in a horrible accident or they discover cancer, everything after the first $5k is covered. I pay everything else up to that. My premiums are much MUCH lower than a regular policy, plus I got $5k med-pay on my auto policy (which means my auto policy would pay the first $5k of any medical bills from an auto accident, even if I'm at fault).

So, while the coughing people around me were paying only their $25 "co-pays", I had to pay the bill in full.
 
Nah, this kind of thing never happens....Must have been carelessness




(just so the tea pot could call the kettle black) ;)
 
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