Nordooh

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Hello group,

Can someone please tell me why Dr. Hood considers the Nordooh to be high end survival knife ?? It looks like a Cold Steel Tanto to me.

I do not believe this knife is appropriate as a survival knife, it is meant as a trusting weapon similiar to a dagger.

It is a beautiful looking knife though, here is the Nordooh's homepage URL;
http://www.simonichknives.com/wprogress.htm

Interested in hearing what you think.

Best regards,

xxxx
 
Everyone has their own ideas as far as what performs well in certain situations. Rob has had that design around for quite a while, and if Ron Hood is a true knife guy, he's already changed his mind as far as what he thinks the perfect outdoor knife is! Not that Rob's design is bad, simply that we seem to change our ideas quite a bit! Personally, I think Rob makes more useful outdoor patterns that a modified tanto, but I think a modified tanto is also more useful than what many give credit for.

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Chiro75 wrote:

>if Ron Hood is a true knife guy, he's already changed his mind as far as what he thinks the perfect outdoor knife is!<

Do you mind elaborating on this, thx

>Not that Rob's design is bad, simply that we seem to change our ideas quite a bit! Personally, I think Rob makes more useful outdoor patterns that a modified tanto<

Which pattern(s) are you referring too ?

> but I think a modified tanto is also more useful than what many give credit for.<

Trust me, any knife blade that can puncture a refrigerator door has my full respect.

I saw "Saving Private Ryan" last night; in the last battle the German Soldier they freed earlier gets into a hand to hand combat situation with one of the Americans. The American pulls out "what looked like" a bayonet. Long as hell, I tell you. I can see why long knives like that, are not as affective as say an Applegate dagger in a knife fight, simply because if is hard to pull out that long bayonet and then you need room to stab your opponent. In this case, the German took the bayonet away and killed the American with it. "Very Emotional Scene".

I have to tell you I was kind of sick feeling at the end of the movie, I have never been in combat so I am not use to what seems to be realistic battle scenes. I would recommend this film. However, the best war flic I have ever scene was "A Bridge To Far" great movie.

Best regards,

xxxx
 
I guess it all depends on what you are planning to survive!

At exactly the right time and place my Spyderco ladybug could be the perfect "Survival Knife".


MNH
 
XXXX, most knife people have an ever-evolving idea of what the "perfect knife" (IMHO, a non-reality) is. If they did not, then there wouldn't be a market for new knives! What Ron may have considered the perfect outdoor knife when he received it could be completely different now.
I think Rob's Talonite Chopper with a spear point blade is a better all-around knife, judging by looks alone, than the Nordooh.

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XXXX, Why dont you come on over to Hoods Woods and join the forum and ask Ron in the Bladeware Forum yourself? Actually, it is his design, Nordooh is Ron Hood spelled backwards.
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Also, see how well it performs in his Primitive Weapons video. Take care Sean. Here is the URL, (I hope) http://server2.ezboard.com/hoodlums
Well, that didnt work so try http://www.survival.com and join the forum
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[This message has been edited by Rob Simonich (edited 06 November 1999).]

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"Trust me, any knife blade that can puncture a refrigerator door has
my full respect."

Not mine.
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-Cougar Allen :{)

P.S. Practically any knife made can puncture a refrigerator door, including imported folders that sell for less than $5. That same applies to car doors. Try it sometime with whatever knives you happen to have. If you use a $5 knife the point will be noticeably dulled, especially if you stab repeatedly ... it'll take a lot of thrusts before it gets too dull to penetrate with a forceful stab, though -- you'll probably get bored first.

-Cougar :{)
 
xxxx: The Nordooh has to be seen and felt to be appreciated. Several points:

First, Mr. Simonich is a very nice guy and worthy of our patronage. I had the pleasure of meeting him at Blade show West and talked to him for a while re: Talonite and some of his designs.

Second: The Nordooh is very well balanced. After handling the knife, it is one of the best balanced knives for its size. If you need to, it will suffice as a self defense tool (albeit more of a short sword for me, than a knife)

With a tanto, you have two edges to cut with, and it is easier to maintain.

Third, the Nordooh can be had with a Parasite, which is an innovative new design. It is a small knife which fits into the handle of the Larger knife.

IMO, The Kanji in Talonite is probably one of the best pieces for survival. It is small, tough, and light. However, it can not chop. Of course, I am comparing apples and oranges there.

Look into Mr. Simonich's knives. They are worth it.

Dave
 
I thought I'd drop in here... someone posted in my forum.

As has already been said, Ideas about "perfect design" change. My ideas have changed in favor of the tanto point.

I could go on for an age about the benefits of the tanto but it is really about my overall field experience with the design.

Years ago I started seeing tantos appear in the field, in the hands of my students. I watched how relatively inexperienced bladesmen quickly became proficient with carving chores and sharpening using the design. What I learned is that these folk were in reality using two blade lengths, the short fore blade and the longer edge for different cutting chores. The tip also seemed to be stronger. (You can see this in our newest video on "Fundamentals of Tracking" where we devote almost 15 minutes to knife design and use.)

A hammer forger, Martin Kruse (RIP), made a short field tanto for me and I finally tried it out.

Acceptance came slowly as I've always owned more "American traditional" blades, but it did come. It is easier (for me and many of my field students) to sharpen a tanto. There are no wrist articulation issues while keeping the edge geometry on a stone or stick. The straight cutting edge is also as easy to bring to an edge.

Last year one of my hunting companions told me during an Elk hunt that the tanto was worthless for skinning. I got my bull and unzipped the thing with my Nordooh. I split the joints, cracked the spine and caped the head to leave the skull (broke the rack at the skull)all with the Nordooh. It worked as well as or better than an ax and a traditional skinning knife. This year he hunted with a TOPS tanto. Happy man.

Not everyone is going to feel as good about the style.

It is not a copy of anything. It is a synthesis of what I like in a blade now. Believe me, you need to do more than "look" at a knife to understand it's function and balance.

Rob is a craftsman and makes many fine knife designs. I have several. If you like the general look of the Nordooh but dislike the tanto.. get it with a field point of some sort. He'll be happy to help you.

Hope this helps.

Ron
 
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