Normalize 1084 Steel Source?

for clarification. we want to be able to grind then quench. We prefer not to have to do other heat treating prior to cutting, grinding and beveling.

any info would be appreciated.
 
As a rule, it comes normalized and ready to grind.

Aldo and most knife suppliers sell fully spheroidized annealed steel in most all grades.
 
Stacy

That is what I was led to believe. But other sources have stated Aldos 1084 needs to be heat treated at 1600,1500, 1400ish before they are beveled, profiled and heat treated. We had some knives that just would not take an edge. we just heated them to non magnetic and quenched in canola. They are very grainy. They would not cut . My sharpening is pretty good. I have been sharpening free handed for many years.
 
Everybody's right... most steel from the major suppliers comes annealed and ready to quench. Also, Aldo had a batch of 1084 that was SO spheroidized that it had to be re-normalized to work right.

That said, Aldo's 1084 is a good bet, as is Kelly Cupples' 1080 and Alpha Knife Supply's 1080+.
 
I think Living the Dream wants pre heat treated steel.
It sounds like he doesn't quite understand heat treating.
 
Bill you are somewhat correct. I am a beginner at all of this. I don't have a kiln. we renormalized our last batch in a gas forge. It turned out great, but it could have been luck. We just went by color.

So Much to learn
 
Living The Dream said:
Bill you are somewhat correct. I am a beginner at all of this. I don't have a kiln. we renormalized our last batch in a gas forge. It turned out great, but it could have been luck. We just went by color.

So Much to learn
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if you have a gas forge, spend a couple dollars and buy a thermocouple and display. then buy a piece of steel tube the length of your forge big enough for your knives. you should be able to adjust your forge so the temperature inside your piece of tube(or muffle) stays constant. read the stickies at the top of this sub-forum about heat treat.
scott
 
I think I understand what you are asking. There was a discussion about it not too long ago.
Aldos 1084 is fully spheroidized and it is a good idea to preform a thermal cycle after grinding and before the final quench to be sure everything gets into solution.
During the discussion, if I remember correctly, Chuck from Alpha Knife Supply stated that their steel is ready to go from grinder to quench without the additional process of the thermal cycle (stock removal only of course).
 
It appears that you didn't temper after hardening.
Read the stickies about heat treating carbon steel.
 
E. Carlson is correct. Anything Alpha sells is ready to H/T and doesn't need any thermal cycling. He goes out of his way to stock steels so these steps aren't needed.
Maybe he will Chime in. Where are ya Chuck.
 
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