Normalizing

Mildly related:

A friend is an MRI service man. Very interesting machine. In short is uses an extremely powerful magnet. In fact so strong that it makes the polarity of the hydrogen in the water molecules line up.

As a way of explaining the scale, the magnetic pull of the entire earth is .5 tesla. A single MRI machine runs at 2. That puts the body in immediate proximity to 4 times the magnetic pull of the earth. At that concentrated level there is an effect on individual hydrogen atoms. (Don't know about other elements, such as Iron.)


As a funny story:

The magnetic field is, obviously, very strong. The larger the metal object and the closer, the more pull. The tech I know was working the hospital one night while workers were delivering stuff into the room. He warned them not to bring the dolly in. "Don't go past this line! Just hand carry the boxes," he kept repeating. He had to take a leak and thought the workers got the point, so he left.

Well they didn't. They took the dolly past the line. It flew across the room. When he returned he found the guys vainly trying to pull the dolly off the side of the multi-million dollar machine.

He attached a rope and 5 or 6 guys went out in the hallway to drag the flying dolly free from the grip of the giant machine.

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Directly related:

It would be interesting to quench in an MRI machine. However, you'd never get the steel off the wall and into the tank.


Steve
 
I was just watching a very cool show on one of the cable channels last week about the magnetic field of the earth. It explained how in the last 300 years there has been a dramatic drop in the strength of the field. After some research it was found that every few hundreds of thousands of years the polarity actually reverses (which would result in compasses reversing also). This seems to be heralded by a drop in the field as chaotic anomolies pop up and odd patches of reversal occur randomly around the globe. Apparently there is such an anomoly in the southern hemisphere how. If this process were to really take off there could be multiple poles around the globe at any given time until the total reversal finally occured (also rampant cancers and mutations as the solar wind and cosmic radiatation had free access to the surface, but also beautiful auroras in every night sky :rolleyes: ).

Interesting stuff to think about, and how would this work with the quenching idea :eek: :confused: :eek:
 
Originally posted by Darren Ellis
Here you go Mike:

http://www.ckdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18238


I still don't see the name calling.

If someone on another forum chooses to take offense at something like this, it is beyond our control. I find it unfortunate that they do.

I would like to have a nickel for every " what makes a better blade, forging, or stock removal" thread started by bladesmiths for the sole purpose of slamming stainless steels. Hell, there's one going right now, on the forum you linked to.
Some even go so far as to slam makers that use electricity.
I just ignore them.
 
Originally posted by Sando
Mildly related:

As a way of explaining the scale, the magnetic pull of the entire earth is .5 tesla. A single MRI machine runs at 2. Steve

Steve, small correction...the approximate value of the earth's magnetic field at the surface is 0.5 x 10^(-4) Tesla. Conventional bar magnets can have typical values in the 2 Tesla range and superconducting magnets can have values upward of 25 Tesla or more. So, if the MRI machine your friend works on runs at 4 Tesla then there are 5 orders of magnitude of difference..pretty big.

:)

-Darren
 
Sando, quenching in a magnetic field is not a new idea.Things do line up better magnetically , you get a stronger more permanent magnet.
 
Originally posted by Mike Hull
I still don't see the name calling.

You're right, you'll only read subtle innuendo's in the thread...the name calling came in via email to me. On the other hand, I did get some very nice emails from an accomplished neotribal bladesmith who I dearly respect.


[/i]I just ignore them. [/B]

Words to live by, makes for keeping friends friends, thanks.

-Darren
 
Good to see this thread kinda back on track with the humor and information that it was intended to give.
Since alot of the same guys post on both forums, a cross forum battle would be pretty senseless:)

FWIW, to the best of my knowledge there have only been 3 threads locked since this forum was started. That's damn good and says alot for the guys that come here.

My daddy always told me it's ok to be blind, and it's ok to be stupid, but the world will never forgive you if you are blind and stupid at the same time :D
 
to the best of my knowledge there have only been 3 threads locked since this forum was started
And I was at the center of one of them! Jeesh! and now here it seems once again I stuck my foot in my mouth so to speak :footinmou

Darren first off I extend my apologies for being the "cause" in anyway for those personal attacks on you via email or otherwise. I forgot that some folks just don't seem to have a sense of humour.

One of these days I'll learn not to stir the pot - and that's all I thought I was doing by "sharing" this thread - heck I got some great laughs from this thread, especially since I recognized Darren's name and other's who I highly respect and who I know visit the Outpost. Darren I thought that the quench tank idea was great considering the fact that just earlier you had paid high compliments to a knife made by the Godfather of the vibration theory. BTW I've got one of his recent stickers in hand and it really is Beaut! so I guess it just goes to show that no matter how you get there the end justifies the means - at least in knifemaking (That darn Jesuitical schooling just won't go away :( )
 
I've seen no name calling here, no mean spiritedness. Just some folks having some fun.

Wow, just read the thread in the other forum...I thought everyone's "jesting" was directed at me for starting the thread, did not feel anyone was degrading me or anyone else. Re-read the posts and still did not see any attacks directed at anyone, just some good ol boys poking fun at me which I enjoy!

I do apologize though about being insensitive and posting the link to the other forum where I read about the procedure, it was not meant to direct the remarks away from me but to show I was not just making it up!
 
Originally posted by Bruz
I've seen no name calling here, no mean spiritedness. Just some folks having some fun.

Wow, just read the thread in the other forum...I thought everyone's "jesting" was directed at me for starting the thread, did not feel anyone was degrading me or anyone else. Re-read the posts and still did not see any attacks directed at anyone, just some good ol boys poking fun at me which I enjoy!

I do apologize though about being insensitive and posting the link to the other forum where I read about the procedure, it was not meant to direct the remarks away from me but to show I was not just making it up!


You have done nothing to apologize for.

There are some folks that will go out of their way to take offense, when none was intended. That's the state of the current internet. Unfortunate, and NOT your fault.

It was a fun thread for a short time though.:D
 
Originally posted by Mike Hull
You have done nothing to apologize for.

There are some folks that will go out of their way to take offense, when none was intended. That's the state of the current internet. Unfortunate, and NOT your fault.

It was a fun thread for a short time though.:D

Don't worry, MY panties didn't get twisted in a knot. Now one thing that I have personally never done is to grease myself down with bacon grease. It never really crossed my mind but I wouldn't want to do my impersonation of "that comedian running down the street on fire". I think you can take some things too far. Besides, in my case you would have a grease fire going for about 3 days.

I have ground nekkid, well, except for the tennis shoes, I hate it when you get one of those little metal splinters in your toe! Oh, I also wore safety glasses and a respirator, too. It wasn't so bad except for the mosquitos. Maybe thats why I settled on a Hard Core grinder a few years back...:D (Just kidding of course)
 
Im feeling the guilt tug about the chicken foot above the forge. In reality I dont even have a chicken foot. I still would never grind nekkid. Those sparks could start a bush fire!
 
Originally posted by C L Wilkins
I have ground nekkid, well, except for the tennis shoes, I hate it when you get one of those little metal splinters in your toe! Oh, I also wore safety glasses and a respirator, too. It wasn't so bad except for the mosquitos. Maybe thats why I settled on a Hard Core grinder a few years back...:D (Just kidding of course)


Gee! Thanks Craig. Now I have to wash my mind out with lye, to try and get that image out of it.:eek: :barf: ;)
 
Grinding NEKKID?:eek:

OK NOW I"M OFFENDED. :rolleyes: :p :D
I'm gonna hafta have therapy to get that pic outa my head. LOL:p :p
 
Originally posted by C L Wilkins

I have ground nekkid, well, except for the tennis shoes, I hate it when you get one of those little metal splinters in your toe!

Just so you don't get too excited about how the grinding is going.....:D
 
Hmmm, grinding nekkid, that could be a frightening image, fortunately I've never seen Craig, so it won't leave me damaged for life. :D Now, as long as fitzo doesn't come along and say that he grinds nekkid, all will be well with the world!!! :D :D :D

-Darren
 
Nope, no nekkid grinding for me, Darren. Pink thong...... think on that image for awhile! :D
 
Grinding Neked?!

OK, now I'm offended! This thread is headen down hill again! :p
 
Originally posted by fitzo
Nope, no nekkid grinding for me, Darren. Pink thong...... think on that image for awhile! :D

Oh My God Mike! Thanks, now I'm going to have to spend a bunch of money in therapy...some friend you are!

:D :D :D

-Darren
 
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