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I like everything about the knife except for the domed pivot pins. I agree with cj, the knife looks repaired.
 
Personally, I like the look for a change. Even own a couple of customs by Bailey and Ron Newton that have domed pivot pins.
I think it is cool to be offering them domed and hidden. It took a while to grow on me, but it stuck.
 
I spend on average (right now) between $60 to $100 on a knife. I one day would love to own a Rick Menefee knife. It is a Holy Grail quest for sure. I think the domed pin option is a great way to look at it. In my mind, a custom has perfect fit and finish, awesome scales, and perfectly fitted bolsters polished or finished without a sign of a pivot pin on the bolster. On the other hand, a domed pin being more structurally sound, it is innovative that Rick sees this as an upgrade feature, and is avante guard enough to present/promote it as such. Now, if only I could stop buying 3 or 4 knives for $100 each so I could spring for a custom...... Rick can you email me some will power please?
 
cj65 said:
I spend on average (right now) between $60 to $100 on a knife. I one day would love to own a Rick Menefee knife. It is a Holy Grail quest for sure. I think the domed pin option is a great way to look at it. In my mind, a custom has perfect fit and finish, awesome scales, and perfectly fitted bolsters polished or finished without a sign of a pivot pin on the bolster. On the other hand, a domed pin being more structurally sound, it is innovative that Rick sees this as an upgrade feature, and is avante guard enough to present/promote it as such. Now, if only I could stop buying 3 or 4 knives for $100 each so I could spring for a custom...... Rick can you email me some will power please?
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Well said.

The domed pivot doesn't appeal to me aesthetically, and I don't really see myself pushing a custom slip-joint hard enough to undermine the strength of a flush pivot - the standard pivot on my Menefee Swayback feels as solid as a bank vault - but the resourceful application of a domed pivot sends a clear message that Rick M. is serious about building no-compromise, no-nonsense cutting tools (that just happen to look like art objects).
 
Rick, whilst I would not be too pleased about the domed pin in a small pocket knife, I would be very happy to have same on a larger using knife....particularly when paired with rough stag and dipped or grooved bolsters.

And for a repair....definitely !


Regards.
 
I've owned knives by Cliff Polk and HK Parker both who used to exclusively do domed pivot pins. It's different, but not something I prefer on my slipjoints. I think it looks a little better on the less traditional slipjoint patterns.
 
Every now and again I come across pics that make me sit here and gawk. Well this is one of them:D
 
I've seen them done this way,before,too,and always thought it was because the maker was not skilled enough,or cofident enough (or ? well U know whattImean)to do it the other way (hidden).But then Rick told me of its strength & also,it would be easier to "adjust" say,if the pivot were to loosen,after hard use.In Rick's opinion,he says,it is a bit of work to do it this way.
I prefer the flush hidden pins & after useage,if they "show",that does not bother me.
But this is a great knife,carry & use it in good health & spirits Rick :thumbup:
-Vince
 
Seeing a domed pivot makes me REALLY happy for some reason. :D Honestly I think it's beautiful, well executed, and it looks a hell of a lot more robust. I say domed all the way!
 
What is it about the domed pin that makes it stronger? Is it because it can't "pull" back through the bolster under heavy use?:thumbup: BTW I think it looks great.
 
Rick;

Quote Harry Truman when he said "anybody that doesn't like to hear his daughter play the piano is a son-of-a-bitch". The knife looks great!
Dan Burke
 
Love it. Plus, I love the serpentine trapper pattern and how it hides more of the spine.
 
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I think it looks great, will you be doing this on your shadow patterns? or just those with bolsters? and in which ways would it be "stronger"?

Rob
 
robbobus said:
I think it looks great, will you be doing this on your shadow patterns? or just those with bolsters? and in which ways would it be "stronger"?

Rob
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Rob, you do realize this thread is over a year old?
You might want to make contact directly or at least quote the post which you are referring to in order to make it easier to follow after all this time.
 
rickmenefee said:
No question this is stronger. Theyre are many advantages to this. I make knifes because i like it and i have no problem with doing it with hiden pins and will keep doing this. That being said when someone spends 3 or 4 hundred dollars they deserve to have something better than what the normally would get. I know this is better. It will not be for everyone but i like it. This will be done on custom orders if they they ask in the future
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I had no idea this post was from the past, just noticed Mr.Burke had commented on his compilation with Queen, and checked out his other post, which was on this knife. It's a beautiful knife, worth bringing back up :)
 
If you are going to resurrect a thread, a Rick Menefee thread is a good one to do it on. LOL.
 
Has anyone tested this to see if it really is stronger? It seems like under some circumstances, it wouldn't be. A pin peened out into a tapered hole is very strong. Any force trying to pull the bolsters apart is spread out over a large area, so the stresses in the pin are small. There's only trouble if the pin starts rotating in the bolster, because any wear on that interface will open up a lot of slop.

A spun pin through a straight hole, on the other hand, puts any spreading load on the head itself. If the counterbore in which the head sits isn't filleted at the inner edge, the stresses in the pin will be huge.
 
cj65 said:
If you are going to resurrect a thread, a Rick Menefee thread is a good one to do it on. LOL.
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Agreed. I missed this thread the first time around. I love the knife in the OP. The domed pivot pin looks good to me. If Scagel had used bolsters, I bet he would have domed the pin like that too.

Deep, rat-tailed bolsters always get a :thumbup: from me as well. That is a lovely knife.
 
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