Not Scandi, Nordic....

To throw a few more cogs in the wrench... Or other way around... *shrugs*
I think a scandi is a narrow sabre grind. A lot of puukkos i have seen, feature either a sabre grind, or a full flat grind with a convex/Moran/appleseed secondary.
A traditional Norwegian tollekniv, as has been brought up earlier in this thread, has a narrow, single bevel/beffel grind. Infact, seeing as the blacksmiths of old, did the grinding on the traditional tollekniv with a somewhat small stationary round grinding waterstone... I suppose you could even say that the scandi grind is actually hollow/concave.... O_O

How`s that for a cog in the wrench? :D
 
akennedy73 said:
And it's clear from the way it's said that it's not just a knife... it's a puukko. There are knives - and then there are puukkos. :D
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Finnish knife grammar, vol1 :D

There is a different word for a knife (=veitsi) and a puukko, but "puukko" is often a synonyme for knife. Basically, any sharp knife can be called a puukko, for example a carpet knife is often called a "mattopuukko". Many knife enthusiast do distinguish these two from eachother though.
 
The term scandi grind is fine. Most of the finnish puukkosmiths are likely unaware of such term but then again, that's obvious, it is a term invented elsewhere (UK right?)

Larger differences are associated with the term Puukko and how long a knife (and it's sheath) remains a Puukko when features are changed. Finnish manufacturers constantly break "rules" on features distinguishing Puukko knives but they do try to appeal a larger market. Many non-finnish manufacturers and smiths certainly make knives they call Puukkos that really are not but I doubt you'll find many who care.

I doubt whether Puukko was actually a design from Sweden. For one that would be oversimplifying and secondly a failure to understand differences between nordic knives.

Having said all above...theres correct and there's incorrect. Should the incorrect knowledge circulate because it's nitpicking? There's fairly little discussion and understanding on what really makes a tollekniv, a puukko or other similar nordic knives. Among blade enthusiasts one would think factual information was appreciated.
 
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Fonly, That dude looks like he is hating life and will for the next few days.

Me, I dont like the looks of the scandi blades anyways.
 
1234 said:
I meant classic wood handle Mora , no secondary bevel on those , right ?

Beffel sounds about right ! ;):D

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Just to be sure the several "red handled" Mora's I have are typical, I looked at several dozen at a recent show. Every single one had a secondary bevel. Call it a "micro bevel" to try and justify "Scandi" for a single bevel knife, but it's still there -- for very good reasons. It's less delicate.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Just to be sure the several "red handled" Mora's I have are typical, I looked at several dozen at a recent show. Every single one had a secondary bevel. Call it a "micro bevel" to try and justify "Scandi" for a single bevel knife, but it's still there -- for very good reasons. It's less delicate.
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OK , micro beffel ! :D

I still call it Mora grind , not Nordic or Scandi .

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Thomas Linton said:
It's a British name, adopted here, for a saber/flat single-bevel grind hardly ever used in the Scandinavian (or Nordic, if you will) area except on request. To be clear, almost all knives made in that area are either convexed, concave, come with a secondary bevel, a diamond cross-section, or a combination of these features.

If you're writing fiction, you can name your characters anything you want. "Fred" would be an example. :D

A myth, once established, has great power.

The term "Scandi" applied to a grind, like "convex," has come to have a certain meaning understood by many of those who use it.
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What he said:thumbup:
 
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