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Miltonhunter77

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I'm here to find another new knife to take the place of my lone wolf swale. I love the knife. It's tough as hell,Can take a real beating.
The problem is it was a gift from my wife. I'm incredibly rough on a knife,prob not liked by real knife guys. I pry,chop and hit with hammer if it helps cut. Everything but use it for a screw driver, even that bothers me.
I picked up a spyderco s30v sage to hopefully take the spotlight of everyday abuse. I could tell real quick that s30v was a mistake. The stuff is like glass. I work on a farm and cut hay string a lot,the stuff is dirty and some of it might have metal in it.
Anyway my lone wolf has a n680 blade and never has a problem with whatever I put it through, the spyderco s30v sage not so much, it's chipped out in a few spots and now I'm afraid of ruining a good knife blade,At least for somebody that gets it next. I'm sure it's not going to take what I'll put it through,but it's obviously not made to be put through what I going to put a knife through.
I'm looking for a sure enough tough folder that is as strong as my swale" not a benchmade by the way". Nothing against benchmade, I got my wife a griptilan and I have a perdu auto, but they just are not beat with a hammer kinda tough,nor were they meant to be. I guess no knife is ,but that doesn't mean there isn't a few out there that can take it.
I want to know what there is out there that is tough as nails, folds and can keep a decent edge. I don't mind having to sharpen a bit more often if it means it's tougher. But I do like a keen edge as well. The n680 on my lone wolf is good stuff,but my wife's benchmade has n680 blade as well, but it doesn't seem to be as well made or perhaps processed the same.
I like the spyderco design, it is very well built and feels good in the hand. Just the wrong type of steel for me.
What is Gona be my best bet for a steel in the spyderco line that can take a pounding? Or another brand perhaps?
 
Farmers for centuries used a 10xx carbon steel knife for the same tasks you do ... or worse.
If you are hammering on your knife, you should switch to a fixed blade, with a blade length close to the blade length you prefer for your folder.
If you are hammering on your knife with an actual hammer, why not swap your hammer for a carpenter's axe? That would give you both the hammer and an axe/hatchet head to chop through what you are trying to hammer your poor innocent knife through.
 
Miltonhunter77 said:
I'm here to find another new knife to take the place of my lone wolf swale. I love the knife. It's tough as hell,Can take a real beating.
The problem is it was a gift from my wife. I'm incredibly rough on a knife,prob not liked by real knife guys. I pry,chop and hit with hammer if it helps cut. Everything but use it for a screw driver, even that bothers me.
I picked up a spyderco s30v sage to hopefully take the spotlight of everyday abuse. I could tell real quick that s30v was a mistake. The stuff is like glass. I work on a farm and cut hay string a lot,the stuff is dirty and some of it might have metal in it.
Anyway my lone wolf has a n680 blade and never has a problem with whatever I put it through, the spyderco s30v sage not so much, it's chipped out in a few spots and now I'm afraid of ruining a good knife blade,At least for somebody that gets it next. I'm sure it's not going to take what I'll put it through,but it's obviously not made to be put through what I going to put a knife through.
I'm looking for a sure enough tough folder that is as strong as my swale" not a benchmade by the way". Nothing against benchmade, I got my wife a griptilan and I have a perdu auto, but they just are not beat with a hammer kinda tough,nor were they meant to be. I guess no knife is ,but that doesn't mean there isn't a few out there that can take it.
I want to know what there is out there that is tough as nails, folds and can keep a decent edge. I don't mind having to sharpen a bit more often if it means it's tougher. But I do like a keen edge as well. The n680 on my lone wolf is good stuff,but my wife's benchmade has n680 blade as well, but it doesn't seem to be as well made or perhaps processed the same.
I like the spyderco design, it is very well built and feels good in the hand. Just the wrong type of steel for me.
What is Gona be my best bet for a steel in the spyderco line that can take a pounding? Or another brand perhaps?
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Get a cold steel with the triad lock. That is the best folding knife for the use you are describing.
 
I'm actually surprised that your folder has held up to that. I agree with H n S that a fixed blade, even a smaller one, would be a better choice for you. Whichever you get, folder or fixed, it sounds like something in CPM 3V, which is not stainless but is incredibly tough with decent edge holding, would do the job for you. There are more fixed blades available in 3V than folders, but I have seen some folders using that steel, usually from mid-tech or handmade / custom makers.

If it has to be a Spyderco, I guess I'd look for something with CPM M4 steel. Their Tuff model had 3V steel but it's d/c AFAIK.
 
Spyderco Techno tough thick bulldog CTS-XHP steel.

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Man hearing someone say S30V is like glass really stings a bit. Get a nice Bark River knife. They've got some affordable ones.
 
Spyderco knives are definitely ground on the thin side for good slicing and wouldn't be my choice for the use you describe. Nor would a highly alloyed stainless steel like S30V. I would find something in 1095. I too think a fixed blade is best for you but if you really want that folder maybe try Moore Maker ( 1095 steel) or Buck 420HC ( stainless but tougher than S30V) in the knife you think will work best for you.

Good luck.

Joe
 
I've used knives for a lot of things in a pinch (including as a screwdriver), but if I knew I was going to need to regularly use it for those tasks ahead of time I'd just wear a tool pouch w the task correct tools.

The guys are right that nothing beats a good fixed blade. Sounds like for your work you'd be able to carry one on your belt. Fixed blades are always better bang for the buck too. I bought a Hardpoint manticuda recently. I haven't put it through its paces and like I said, I try to plan ahead now, but the demo videos look like it can take a major beating. I'm not a steel expert so don't know where it's steel stacks up

Red
 
Miltonhunter77 said:
I'm here to find another new knife to take the place of my lone wolf swale. I love the knife. It's tough as hell,Can take a real beating.
The problem is it was a gift from my wife. I'm incredibly rough on a knife,prob not liked by real knife guys. I pry,chop and hit with hammer if it helps cut. Everything but use it for a screw driver, even that bothers me.
I picked up a spyderco s30v sage to hopefully take the spotlight of everyday abuse. I could tell real quick that s30v was a mistake. The stuff is like glass. I work on a farm and cut hay string a lot,the stuff is dirty and some of it might have metal in it.
Anyway my lone wolf has a n680 blade and never has a problem with whatever I put it through, the spyderco s30v sage not so much, it's chipped out in a few spots and now I'm afraid of ruining a good knife blade,At least for somebody that gets it next. I'm sure it's not going to take what I'll put it through,but it's obviously not made to be put through what I going to put a knife through.
I'm looking for a sure enough tough folder that is as strong as my swale" not a benchmade by the way". Nothing against benchmade, I got my wife a griptilan and I have a perdu auto, but they just are not beat with a hammer kinda tough,nor were they meant to be. I guess no knife is ,but that doesn't mean there isn't a few out there that can take it.
I want to know what there is out there that is tough as nails, folds and can keep a decent edge. I don't mind having to sharpen a bit more often if it means it's tougher. But I do like a keen edge as well. The n680 on my lone wolf is good stuff,but my wife's benchmade has n680 blade as well, but it doesn't seem to be as well made or perhaps processed the same.
I like the spyderco design, it is very well built and feels good in the hand. Just the wrong type of steel for me.
What is Gona be my best bet for a steel in the spyderco line that can take a pounding? Or another brand perhaps?
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try lc200n. spyderco has a few knives in it. high corrosion resistance and is suppose to be tough. 3v and 4v are also tough steel.
I like m4 too.

I don't pry, and hammer on knives though... most stainless steels won't like that kind of abuse. high carbon steel would also be a good choice with a blade grind that's stable at the tip to avoid breaking easily.
 
Cold steel ultimate hunter! I have beaten mine badly and it has proved to be one of my most if not the most reliable knives I have ever owned. You will like it, you will abuse it, it will beg for more. Another good suggestion is an Emerson. I have a Cqc8 horseman that also has had a very rough life and has never let me down. I love Spyderco but one of these two will work best in my opinion.
 
Get a fixed blade already. Even better...have one made. You can get a fixed blade + sheath for around the same price as that spyderco you bought. It'll hold up much better and will even be more comfortable to work with.

If you really insist on a folder I'd get either something in 3V or something with a Triad Lock (Cold Steel). But really...working on a farm it does sound like you're using a light tool (folder) where a heavy tool (fixed blade) is what you really should be using.
 
Checkout our knifemakers fixed blade for sale forum some good deals in there for a quality fixed blade.
 
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