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I just finished reading through the current 4 page thread directing someone to buy an OBM grinder.

I don't have any stake in any particular grinder company but why does every thread point people to that particular grinder?

This recent thread- http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1464917-Reeder-products-Grinder

turned up a new entry priced grinder that looks to be much more machine for the money, for those that want to buy and not build a grinder.

There are always the same suggestions, but in the end it seems like everyone is on the Oregon Blademaker wagon.

Why?

I've never used one but it seems there are better options to me, some may be just a little more expensive but I just don't see that as the best of even the cheap grinders.
 
I've recommended OBM in the past because I've bought parts for them and they've bent over backwards to get them to me quickly on request as well. So I have experience with their customer service. Looking at that grinder it appears to be a good deal for the money, but I've never dealt with that company.
 
MBurks said:
I just finished reading through the current 4 page thread directing someone to buy an OBM grinder.

I don't have any stake in any particular grinder company but why does every thread point people to that particular grinder?

This recent thread- http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1464917-Reeder-products-Grinder

turned up a new entry priced grinder that looks to be much more machine for the money, for those that want to buy and not build a grinder.

There are always the same suggestions, but in the end it seems like everyone is on the Oregon Blademaker wagon.

Why?

I've never used one but it seems there are better options to me, some may be just a little more expensive but I just don't see that as the best of even the cheap grinders.
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I just looked at it now, can't find a decent photo of it.
 
I've recommended OBM several times as well, along with a number of other grinders at various price points depending on given budgets and what not. As far as I'm currently aware, the OBM requires the least amount of money for a fully functional, tool arm configurable grinder, once all wheels and a motor (and possibly VFD) are included.

It looks like the Reeder grinder comes close, but seems to come out slightly more expensive once you add all of the wheels.

That said, it may be worth the extra $50 or $100 dollars compared to the OBM, then again, part of the reason you also don't see it recommended is probably because there's not much information on the grinder, the company, or their products, other than their webpage, and one or two additional youtube vids. OTOH, there are loads of videos and reviews of the OBM grinder, as well as their other accessories.

Personally, I think the Reeder machine looks fairly well thought out and put together machine, and I'd love to see more in depth reviews and information on it.
 
I have a Reeder on order. They're 2+ weeks out. Once I receive it and have a chance to use it a bit, I'll give a review from a newbie perspective. By the time you add drive/idler/tracking wheels, a good motor, VFD, 10" contact wheel and a few accessories, you're up around $1700+.

Seems like a lot for the money compared to the competition. Reeder just made a few changes to their grinder. Check out their YouTube channel. They're great folks to deal with. Very responsive with answers to questions. I emailed Beaumont with a question over a week ago and am still waiting for a response. I was ready to buy the KMG and after that experience, changed my mind.
 
knife to a gunfight said:
I've recommended OBM several times as well, along with a number of other grinders at various price points depending on given budgets and what not. As far as I'm currently aware, the OBM requires the least amount of money for a fully functional, tool arm configurable grinder, once all wheels and a motor (and possibly VFD) are included.

It looks like the Reeder grinder comes close, but seems to come out slightly more expensive once you add all of the wheels.

That said, it may be worth the extra $50 or $100 dollars compared to the OBM, then again, part of the reason you also don't see it recommended is probably because there's not much information on the grinder, the company, or their products, other than their webpage, and one or two additional youtube vids. OTOH, there are loads of videos and reviews of the OBM grinder, as well as their other accessories.

Personally, I think the Reeder machine looks fairly well thought out and put together machine, and I'd love to see more in depth reviews and information on it.
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I just looked at both the the obm and Wilmont lb1000, same price to my door and the Wilmont will accept a 56c face motor. The Wilmont is 600 plus 50 flare rate shipping, the obm is 550 plus 100 flat rate shipping.

If I had the choice between the 3 discussed here already, I would probably choose the Reeder for the tilt and I own a Wilmont already and would buy again it before I bought the obm. A kmg chassis is only 700 plus shipping, I can't find a price on a power right now, an esteem is 675.

I'm just trying to understand the attraction.
 
MBurks said:
I just looked at both the the obm and Wilmont lb1000, same price to my door and the Wilmont will accept a 56c face motor. The Wilmont is 600 plus 50 flare rate shipping, the obm is 550 plus 100 flat rate shipping.

If I had the choice between the 3 discussed here already, I would probably choose the Reeder for the tilt and I own a Wilmont already and would buy again it before I bought the obm. A kmg chassis is only 700 plus shipping, I can't find a price on a power right now, an esteem is 675.

I'm just trying to understand the attraction.
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You still save a little on the OBM, as the $650 LB1000 doesn't come with any wheels, where as the OBM only needs a drive wheel. At any rate, I've included the LB1000 in past recommendations several times as well, as it seems like a fine machine, and has plenty of testimonials and reviews to that effect.

I have no particular attraction to the OBM vs any other machine, other than the fact that it seems to be the lowest priced "entry level" tool arm grinder currently available, when you include wheels, vfd and/or motor, and shipping cost. It may only be around a $50 to $100 difference from the next machine up, but many times those machines are included in recommendations as well.

A lot of guys are looking for the absolute rock bottom price on a grinder that will serve their needs but still be expandable/upgrade-able. OBM seems like as suitable an option as any as far as I can tell. Yes, you can spend a little more and get a wilmont, or a pheer, or a kmg, esteem, amk, reeder, nathan's, ameribrade, northridge, GIB, etc... but where do you draw the line? Is an LB1000 $50 to $150 better? Maybe? I don't know. Truth be told, I haven't personally used either.
 
From the information available the Reeder grinder has the most going for it of all the grinders in that price point. Two tooling arms, 56c direct drive ready (I believe), and a lower price point make it more attractive than the OBM or LB1000. I'm sure the other two grinders work very well but for my dollars I plan to pick up a Reeder relatively soon.

Blessings,
Joshua
 
JoshRG said:
From the information available the Reeder grinder has the most going for it of all the grinders in that price point. Two tooling arms, 56c direct drive ready (I believe), and a lower price point make it more attractive than the OBM or LB1000. I'm sure the other two grinders work very well but for my dollars I plan to pick up a Reeder relatively soon.

Blessings,
Joshua
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Hope to hear some feedback on them so that's good to hear .
 
The lb 1000 accepts 2 tool arms, it just doesn't come with flipping plates at that price point.

It's a rock solid grinder though, no tracking or vibration issues at all.
 
MBurks said:
The lb 1000 accepts 2 tool arms, it just doesn't come with flipping plates at that price point.

It's a rock solid grinder though, no tracking or vibration issues at all.
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The OBM really doesn't seem like it's really that different from the LB1000 to my eye, other than the motor mount (or lack there of). It holds two tool arms as well, and also comes painted. Also,there's no real assembly required other than to position the motor, but personally, I really don't think assembly (especially for a kit like the LB1000) should really even be a factor, since it's really a one and done kind of thing, and really doesn't take that long. Still, that seems to be important to some people for whatever reason.

As I said, I'd certainly love to see more of the Reeder machine, as it certainly appears to be a contender. I'm not much of a fan of how it flips to horizontal, but for the price, I suppose it's hard to be picky, and that's still added functionality. I'd also like to see more of the "2 plane" tracking wheel for running the belts in reverse.
 
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