Now You have a REASON to buy a really big gun

i'm contributing to the plesiosaur and velociraptor release campaign myself. gotta get a few more predators in the food chain to make life a bit more competitive. cave bears and sabre tooth tigers gotta be next (see, it's degenerating into another bear thread...)

unfortuneately, they've already introduced the most horrible, fearsome, destructive predator the world has ever seen in 5 billion years.
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Us Hoomans.
 
I should tell you all sometime about my oryx hunt there. I think I'm still the youngest to have been drawn for that (13 at the time). That was some of the most fun I've had in my life. Robert Cox owns a ranch right behind the range (used to own most of what is now the range, but the government wanted a place to shoot missiles), and had been putting in for the hunt for almost 30 years at the time (I'm sure he's still putting his name in). I got to know him very well and he used to let my father and I hunt on his land, and I would kill coyotes for him in summer to keep them off his cows (best summer job ever). He wouldn't speak to me for a week after I was drawn for oryx my first year putting in. :D

I'll tell you what, the lions may get an education when they get there. Oryx in Africa and oryx at W.S.M.R. are very different creatures in temperment. In New Mexico, people are their only predators. Other than that, they're the alpha animal on the range and they know it. A bunch of military police trucks have been attacked over the years. One put his horns through the door of an M.P. truck and the leg of its occupant. He radioed for help and they got to him, but he was unconscious and had almost bled to death. Would certainly have died if the horn hadn't broken off and stayed in his leg. Another rammed an M.P. truck head on while it was heading down one of the northern range roads at about 45 mph. Killed the oryx but killed the truck too--horns went through the grill and radiator.

They have a bit of an attitude problem. ;)
 
hehehe...I thought he was going to say "Paris Hilton"

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How about carp, brown trout, English sparrows,and European starlings? All brought over to improve our continent's wildlife population. :mad:
 
What we need is to bio-engineer something that eats criminals.
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That one is third on the list. First we should get rid of the lawyers and tax collectors. :)

n2s
 
Like mentioned before--Australia.

Heard this dopey idea on the radio myself last night.

Here's a link.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/513772/

Note this:

"Other living species that are counterparts to Pleistocene-era animals in North America include feral horses (Equus caballus), wild asses (E. asinus), Bactrian camels (Camelus bactrianus), Asian (Elephas maximus) and African (Loxodonta africana) elephants and lions (Panthera leo)."

Isn't there already a problem with feral horses in N. America?

Why would Camelus bactrianus intoduced in N. America be less of a problem than Camelus dromedarius has become in Australia?

And what's wrong with the predators that were here more recently? Why are the African ones "better"? Has the attitude that everything that people who live here do is "bad" been extended to the indigenous (or once indigenous) wildlife?

These guys have to be the fringe wingnuts of the econuts.

Especially in light of things like this:

"The San Francisco Bay estuary is recognized as one of the most invaded aquatic ecosystems in North America. Since 1970, at least one new species has been introduced every 24 weeks. It is estimated that the Bay has over 240 invasive species inhabiting its reaches and that most of the fish found in the Bay-delta are non-native...


Had to look up "lovebugs"....

Seems that current evidence suggests that they moved in from C. America pretty much on their own, or stowed away on ships--nobody is known to have knowingly introduced them.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/lurkers/lovebugs.htm

Stowing away is how some nasties like zebra mussels got here too.

Apparently, the insects' remains do a number on automobile paint.
Would anyone give a flip about the things if that weren't the case?
 
Cheetah would be an interesting animal to introduce...

1) No record of attacking man
2) Stays in small groups (1-3)
3) Low birthrate (typically only two cubs per litter - twins)
4) Really cool looking... :p

Figure if they tag them, there shouldn't be too much trouble keeping track of them while they assess the impact...

Elephants shouldn't be that bad depending on where they put them (also pretty easy to track :D ) They have dart gun contraceptives to keep the numbers in check.

Horses, camels and such aren't a big deal if you can place a predator for them (without a predator, they get out of hand). Rhinos are a lot more problematic. Then you get to lions and/or tigers. If they can't figure out a safe way to add lions and/or tigers, seeding the larger herbivores won't work as they won't have any significant natural predators.

This is already somewhat underway in Russia...
http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/050506_mammoth_park.html

Of course, I also like to hike in places where they average 2 bears per square mile...
 
Well, this is the largest caliber rifle I own...maybe if I can get some of that hard to find surplus armor piercing ammo I can put down an elephant. :D

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jrobe said:
Well, this is the largest caliber rifle I own...maybe if I can get some of that hard to find surplus armor piercing ammo I can put down an elephant. :D
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You dirty dog devil you!!!! That's the most beautiful rifle ever made, IMO of course.;) :thumbup: :cool:
I'd give my left testicle for one of those even if it would make a baritone of me.:rolleyes: ;) :p :D

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Jrobe do you prefer the leather strap over the standard military issue? I have a leather strap on my little .357 Marlin but had to rub the hell out of it with carnuba cream to get it soft enough to flex where I could fold it like I like too in order to get a good steady grip.
 
I've owned four of them and am sad I don't have one now. There's something about that rifle.


munk
 
Thanks guys! I got her about a month ago from the CMP and spent some time refinishing the wood and replacing a few small parts...so she has only been put back together since yesterday.

It's a mixmaster but I think she'll be a good shooter. It's a '55 Harrington & Richardson but with a SA GAW ('43 or '44) stock and a Winchester (WWII) trigger group. The bore looks great and the muzzle wear reading is very low (1).

Yvsa, I'll have to let you know about the sling. This is the first leather one I've had.
 
I need a reason to own a large caliber handgun?

When did this happen? And does anyone know a good BBQ recipe for an
elephant? :confused: :D ;)
 
DannyinJapan said:
Is that Garand a 30-06 or 308?
Classic lines, lots of power. a Beauty really.
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It's 30-06 and I believe it has the original barrel dated 7-55.
 
Jrobe if your strap is really stiff I would recommend getting some Carnuba Cream from Tandy's Leather. You also might want to get a belt edge beveler, shouldn't be too much, to bevel the corners of the strap to keep them from cutting into your skin.
Of course it can be done with a sharp knife if you're careful and can hold it steady.
I've done it with a knife held by my thumb as a guide but I've had lots of practice.
Work it down until it's soft and comfortable before hunting season and you'll thank me later on when you're in the field with it.;) :D
 
Yvsa said:
Jrobe if your strap is really stiff I would recommend getting some Carnuba Cream from Tandy's Leather. You also might want to get a belt edge beveler, shouldn't be too much, to bevel the corners of the strap to keep them from cutting into your skin.
Of course it can be done with a sharp knife if you're careful and can hold it steady.
I've done it with a knife held by my thumb as a guide but I've had lots of practice.
Work it down until it's soft and comfortable before hunting season and you'll thank me later on when you're in the field with it.;) :D
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It doesn't seem that stiff to me. I have some neatsfoot oil and leather balm on hand, but when it arrived it already had some kind of leather conditioner / wax on it and seems pretty flexible. It's a Turner sling, which was recommended (along with slings by Les Tam) by the folks over on the CMP forum. But we'll see how it does when I can get to the range. Thanks for the advice. :)

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jrobe

Those old timey garrands are not much good for anything anymore. What with all the new fangled gear available and all. Ya need to get ya one of those wonderkin 223's or that new 50 cal azzkiker.

Sooooo, I would be HAPPY to take that old wore out battle stick off your hands so ya can get ya one of the new fangled models. Don't know what I would do with it. Probably just throw it in a corner somewhere. But since I am CONSTANTLY looking for ways to HELP my fellow HI forumites, I would buy that dayumed thing from ya. PM me for my mailing address, etc.

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fixer27 said:
When did this happen? And does anyone know a good BBQ recipe for an elephant? :confused: :D ;)
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I do...but it starts with inviting 1500 of your closest frinds to your house for the cookout.

I've got to agree...this is a stupid idea akin to keeping more than two samples of Small Pox. (Locked down as tight as anything in the world can be)

*We* are the top of the line predators on this planet...it is natural selection that has made it our world and safe in most places to walk in the open instead of running from tree to tree. Like it or not, we compete for living space with a lot of critters...and in the long game, we have won and are now just mopping up. There are reasons we have killed of almost all of the major predators, reasons like children and the elderly...food sources for them.

Preserving them? Absolutely! Inviting them into my neighborhood? No way...

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