NY Post Knife Attack article

Esav Benyamin said:
Go back to Colorado, where maybe you know what you're talking about.
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Sorry Esav, but he's actually right. Reagan did slash funding for mental health facilities, causing lots of patients to be released to wander.

I was a die-hard "Reagan Republican" in those days, but on this one Reagan was wrong.
 
The Last Confederate said:
Sorry Esav, but he's actually right. Reagan did slash funding for mental health facilities, causing lots of patients to be released to wander.

I was a die-hard "Reagan Republican" in those days, but on this one Reagan was wrong.
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Thank you. (For the record, I'm *from* New York and have lived in Colorado for a few years now. I was there when all of this went down.)
 
Actually, the ACLU filed a series of suits in federal court claiming that "imprisonment" of the mentally ill was unlawful. The federal courts agreed and ordered "release" of all not dangerous. In short order, the population of custodial institutions plummeted. (Many such institutions closed or drastically reduced the unused capacity.)

Of course, once "free," these citizens were free to stop taking their meds and free to die on the streets -- and other unpleasant stuff that does not seem to bother the ACLU.

How quickly we forget. It was covered very well at the time.
 
Stone Knife said:
Remember that the NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a pathological liar who is more interested in sensationalism and advancing his political causes than in any journalism or accurate reporting.
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As many may know, he also owns all the Fox TV stations, including, of course, Fox News, the home of "Fair and Balanced" Reporting.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Actually, the ACLU filed a series of suits in federal court claiming that "imprisonment" of the mentally ill was unlawful. The federal courts agreed and ordered "release" of all not dangerous. In short order, the population of custodial institutions plummeted. (Many such institutions closed or drastically reduced the unused capacity.)

Of course, once "free," these citizens were free to stop taking their meds and free to die on the streets -- and other unpleasant stuff that does not seem to bother the ACLU.

How quickly we forget. It was covered very well at the time.
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That's true, too. We can correctly point fingers at Reagan and the ACLU and, if we really wanted, countless other organizations and individuals.
I know an ACLU attorney who argued, during the discussions on the LAPD switching from revolvers to semi-automatic, that the criminals would then upgrade to better weapons in response. :confused:
Some people mean well but just don't get it.
Others don't mean well at all and will gladly put the insane out on the streets to save a corporation or department money. Reagan had no need to worry, he had the CIA to protect him from spork-wielding pan-handlers.
 
What we have here is a failuire to communicate. Perhaps.

The courts - not the executive branch of the federal government - ordered the inmates of custodial mental institutions released as a result of suits by the ACLU against state governments.

Those may not be convenient facts.
 
The Last Confederate said:
Sorry Esav, but he's actually right. Reagan did slash funding for mental health facilities, causing lots of patients to be released to wander.

I was a die-hard "Reagan Republican" in those days, but on this one Reagan was wrong.
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We had homeless insane people wandering the streets LONG before Reagan. Blaming Reagan? Yeesh. I suppose Katrina was Bush's fault, too. And you call yourself a Confederate? Living in Illinois? Please. What Confederate is for federally organized mental institutions, let alone ANY Federal institution?

OK, back to knives. It's unfortunate, but it could just as easily had been a small sharp stick or what have ya. Crime is crime, and no law can ever stop it. Laws just make more more crime.

WYK
Southern Confederate Cherokee
God Bless Texas
 
WYK said:
What Confederate is for federally organized mental institutions, let alone ANY Federal institution?
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I would suggest you read a history book, if the Confederacy was totally against "ANY" federal institutions, then why did it form it's own?

Constitution and all.
 
The knife in question taken from the NY Post front page.

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The Last Confederate said:
I would suggest you read a history book, if the Confederacy was totally against "ANY" federal institutions, then why did it form it's own?

Constitution and all.
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Tough words from a yank. They formed a CONfederacy to limit the power of a Federal government. Ever pick up a history book? They wanted the states to remain more autonymous. Yeesh. It's best ya stay in Illinois("Land Of Lincoln"), the real Confederates down south would eat you alive.

WYK
 
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WYK said:
Tough words from a yank. They formed a CONfederacy to limit the power of a Federal government. Ever pick up a history book? They wanted the states to remain more autonymous. Yeesh. It's best ya stay in Illinois("Land Of Lincoln"), the real Confederates down south would eat you alive.

WYK
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You said "ANY" federal institutions, and you were simply wrong.

The ConFEDeracy had a federal government, similiar to the Union. It raised an army, issued currancy etc. Look it up.

And for the record, my familes are from Tennesse and Kentucky and yet again if you would read a history book instead of shooting off your uninformed mouth, you would know that the SOUTHERN most counties of Illinois were largly Confederate sympathizers. Men from my own home County joined the Confederate army.

Educate yourself more and talk less.
 
A common misperception is that Reagan cut federal spending.It went up.All he did was cut the rate that it increased.Going back to N.Y.C. does anyone remember that crazy woman,I think it was back in the Koch yrs.I believe she called herself "Billy Boggs"after some talk show host.She was institutionized and with the help of the ACLU filed lawsuits to live homeless in the streets.She would uninate in public amoung other things.She eventually won her right to pee in the street.The left turned her into one of their heros and they set her up lecturing at an Ivy league school. :barf: :barf:
I remember another case about a homeless man that sat at the library all day.The townspeople complained that he smelled so bad that they could'nt tolerate visiting the library.The library officials ruled that he could'nt sit in the library smelling that bad.The homeless man sued the town and won $100,000.
Sorry about the no knife content.
 
ROBB said:
A common misperception is that Reagan cut federal spending.It went up.All he did was cut the rate that it increased.

Going back to N.Y.C. does anyone remember that crazy woman,I think it was back in the Koch yrs.I believe she called herself "Billy Boggs"after some talk show host.She was institutionized and with the help of the ACLU filed lawsuits to live homeless in the streets.She would uninate in public amoung other things.She eventually won her right to pee in the street.The left turned her into one of their heros and they set her up lecturing at an Ivy league school. :barf: :barf:

I remember another case about a homeless man that sat at the library all day.The townspeople complained that he smelled so bad that they could'nt tolerate visiting the library.The library officials ruled that he could'nt sit in the library smelling that bad.The homeless man sued the town and won $100,000.
Sorry about the no knife content.
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And he stank so bad you could cut it with a knife. (There!)
 
Ok, time for some music.


Oh, I'm a good old Rebel
Now that's just what I am
For this fair land of freedom
I do not care a damn.
I'm glad I fought against it
I only wish we'd won.
And I don't want no pardon
For anything I've done.


I hates the Constitution
This great Republic too
I hates the Freedmen's Bureau
In uniforms of blue.
I hates the nasty eagle
With all his brag and fuss
But the lyin', thievin' Yankees
I hates' em worse and worse


Three hundred thousand Yankees
Lies still in Southern dust
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot
I wish they was three million
Instead of what we got.


I can't take up my musket
And fight' em now no more
But I ain't a-goin' to love' em
Now that is certain sure
And I don't want no pardon
For what I was and am
And I won't be reconstructed
And I do not give a damn.
 
futant said:
:rolleyes:
that "us and them" mentality is what's most wrong with the world.
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Us and them is what makes for football games, horse races and the success of more than one knifemaker at a time.

hooray for the difference
 
Ryan8 said:
Ok, time for some music.


Oh, I'm a good old Rebel
Now that's just what I am
For this fair land of freedom
I do not care a damn.
I'm glad I fought against it
I only wish we'd won.
And I don't want no pardon
For anything I've done.


I hates the Constitution
This great Republic too
I hates the Freedmen's Bureau
In uniforms of blue.
I hates the nasty eagle
With all his brag and fuss
But the lyin', thievin' Yankees
I hates' em worse and worse


Three hundred thousand Yankees
Lies still in Southern dust
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot
I wish they was three million
Instead of what we got.


I can't take up my musket
And fight' em now no more
But I ain't a-goin' to love' em
Now that is certain sure
And I don't want no pardon
For what I was and am
And I won't be reconstructed
And I do not give a damn.
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Can I use that as my new signature?

:D
 
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